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  • #16
    Originally posted by marlins739 View Post
    Great pictures, I've always wanted to see pictures from that game. It almost looks unfinished because nothing inside is painted yet. I know when the Marlins first started playing they had the green outfield walls, and the hand operated out of town scoreboard. When did those come out?

    Was that hefty bag thing in left field in play like the out of town scoreboard is now? It looks really temporary, and very orange. I wonder why they did eventually put in the Bermuda Triangle. Those sections down the lines are interesting. I think they look better than the bullpen setup they have now, but that's just weird having a 15 foot drop behind the plate.

    I've always thought the right batters eye' section wasn't really needed, that the area directly behind the pitcher is the left side and the wall of the stands. Still, that kind of thing has been known to curse teams before (I'm thinking of the Chief Nocahoma teepee at Fulton County Stadium). I didn't notice it in 2003.

    The whole place looks a lot better now than it did then, in my opinion. The new scoreboards look great, and there's a much more cohesive baseball setup, which would be expected since it's permanent now.

    Were the club level seats different than they are now? Maybe it's just the picture but they look a lot more teal in those pictures, and they're blue now ("That's a blue seater!"). That place sure does look good full. The people in the stands in the rain delay pictures was bigger than some of the actual crowds we got this year.
    (Courtesy of Charlie's ballparks.com)

    From the looks of this picture taken in the first year or two of the Marlins' existance, it looks like the fences for the Marlins were blue, albiet a more deep blueish green. The fences now are more of a solid blue. I don't know if they actually changed out the fences, or simply the color has faded a bit. You do notice the hand operated Teal Monster however. Also, the picnic area is in the outfield, whereas now it is in the right field corner just inside the foul pole.

    I agree, I like the old field box seating along the foul lines. It looks less disjointed as it does now, more natural.

    As to the color of the club level seats, sflnyc is correct as I believe they have always stayed the same color. I think what makes them look different is the contrast between the seats and the gray concrete. Since they painted all the unfinished concrete either blue or orange to match the seats (I believe before one of the Super Bowls here), there is less of a contrasting color.

    I agree with you 100% that they improved the stadium a lot for when the Marlins came in. There's no disguising it's a football stadium, and some of the improvements could just be considered lipstick on a pig, but it still beats an unlipsticked pig. The teal monster, the bermuda triangle, and a few other changes have made the stadium more of a baseball venue than it originally was.

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    • #17
      The inside paint job made the place look a lot warmer inside, I think. In those pictures it looks almost as cold as the original New Comiskey before the renovations. Here's a picture of the Dolph in the mid 90s, after they had the electronic Teal Tower in, and all the team logos on the walls, no Miccosukee ad, no 1997 banner, and they still tarped the outfield upper deck. It doesn't look like the Dolphins retired numbers are up yet either, but that spot was left unpainted, so they were probably about to go up.



      What year did they stop covering the outfield upper deck? I think it looks better without it.
      1997 2003
      Parks I've visited: 30 for 30, plus 5 closed

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      • #18
        Originally posted by marlins739 View Post
        The inside paint job made the place look a lot warmer inside, I think. In those pictures it looks almost as cold as the original New Comiskey before the renovations. Here's a picture of the Dolph in the mid 90s, after they had the electronic Teal Tower in, and all the team logos on the walls, no Miccosukee ad, no 1997 banner, and they still tarped the outfield upper deck. It doesn't look like the Dolphins retired numbers are up yet either, but that spot was left unpainted, so they were probably about to go up.



        What year did they stop covering the outfield upper deck? I think it looks better without it.
        I believe that photo you have there is from the 1997 Season. That's because of the Jackie Robinson logo on the tarp in the Left Field Upper Deck. Who would have guessed that the year would end up with a World Series title?

        That picture brings back memories of the best Marlins Cap ever (Teal Cap with Black Lid) that's gone to the mothballs. Original all Teal Cap was disgusting, and current owner Loria loves the all Black Cap.

        On the tarp removal, I think those came down when John Henry was the owner, although I could be wrong. His formula was to make everybody know that Pro Player Stadium was a bad ballpark for baseball and the team needed a baseball only stadium. Therefore showing the empty seats would help his cause. Also, when the Picnic Area was in the RF corner (but behind the home run fence), the lower level seats down the RF line were never sold. That way, whenever the TV showed the pitcher on the mound from the 3rd Base point of view, you saw nothing but empty orange behind. His strategy of course, backfired.
        Obladi, Oblada...

        July 30, 1978 @ Yankee Stadium (DH vs. Minnesota) My childhood introduction in-person to the greatest game ever.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by sflnyc View Post
          That picture brings back memories of the best Marlins Cap ever (Teal Cap with Black Lid) that's gone to the mothballs. Original all Teal Cap was disgusting, and current owner Loria loves the all Black Cap.
          The Marlins seemed to have minimized the teal over the years. Even the lettering on the uniforms was switched from teal to black.

          I miss the teal, to a reasonable degree (the all teal hats were a bit much, I'll agree. But the teal on black hats were cool.) It was different. Now the uniforms look like any other black pinstriped uniform out there.

          If they ever get the new ballpark built, I hope it has teal seating. It gives the impression of tropical water, which works well in Miami. Green or even navy blue seats wouldn't work as well for the Marlins.

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          • #20
            I hope the new park has teal seats too. And it'd be cool if they kept the same dimensions too. I don't know why they minimized the teal. It wouldn't be a bad time for a uniform change, as long as they brought more of the teal back. I liked it this year when they had the 1997 throwback vest uniforms. They only used them for one game, seems like kind of a waste of money to me.

            I always figured the Dolphins wanted the Marlins to take the tarps down to make the conversion easier. And speaking of the conversion process, how does it work? I know they do things differently during baseball season, and right after baseball ends, they put grass over the infield. Does the Marlins bullpen area stay during football season? I never really looked before, I'll check next time the 0-5 Dolphins are on. I read somewhere that it costs $40,000 to switch the field at RFK, which seems a little crazy. One thing I always wondered was what they did with the foul poles and goal posts and how they put them back up. It'd be interesting to see pictures of the Dolph during a conversion.

            It does look really bad on TV when they look at the pitcher with not a single person in the seats behind him during football season when the party deck is gone. It's not as pathetic as when they show whole crowd shots during ads though
            1997 2003
            Parks I've visited: 30 for 30, plus 5 closed

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            • #21
              I believe (and I'm trying to find some good pictures to show this) the bullpen area and seating down the right field line is kept in place for football, as is the home plate box seats. However, they take out the seats down the left field line, as naturally they have to fit the endzone into the playing field.

              As for the cost to transform it from baseball to football, I have a feeling it isn't nearly as much as it costs to transform RFK. First of all, the football seats at Dolphin Stadium simply retract into a space behind the left field wall. So pulling them out is relatively simple--its sort of like the bleachers at a high school gymnasium. Whereas at RFK, you actually have to move the entire seating section along the third base side on tracks to its final place in what is right field to center field. Plus, the D.C. United was pretty adamant about covering up the infield with sod. Whereas the infield at Dolphin Stadium stays in place (much to the Dolphin's chagrin) until the end of baseball season.

              As for the foul poles and the field goal posts, I imagine it is pretty simple where they just unscrew them (or probably more technically, unbolt them) for whenever the other team is playing and keep them in storage underneath the stadium until they are ready to go back up. They might have a mini-crane to help with the work.
              Last edited by PeteU; 10-12-2007, 06:34 AM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by marlins739 View Post
                I hope the new park has teal seats too. And it'd be cool if they kept the same dimensions too. I don't know why they minimized the teal. It wouldn't be a bad time for a uniform change, as long as they brought more of the teal back. I liked it this year when they had the 1997 throwback vest uniforms. They only used them for one game, seems like kind of a waste of money to me.
                If they did that, you just know they'd dull down the uniforms, probably chance the color scheme, and make them look more like those of other teams... like they did with the DBacks this year, and the DRays (I'm sorry, Rays, because apparently "devil" is a bad word, even though a Devil Ray is a type of fish...) next year. As opposed to now where you know they're definitely Marlins uniforms.

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                • #23
                  As promised, a few newspaper scans from both the 1988 and 1991 exhibition series.

                  The first batch are from the 1991 exhibition series with the Orioles and Yankees, all from the Sun-Sentinel. The first shot shows the empty stadium prior to the game. As you can tell from greater detail in sflnyc's pictures, this is close, but not exactly the same, as today's Dolphin Stadium's layout.

                  The second shows the Orioles running off the field in front of a 67,000 plus sellout crowd. The third shows Yankees catcher Jim Leyritz trying to catch a ball at the dugout steps.
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                  • #24
                    The second group is from both the Herald and the Sun-Sentinel, and shows the stadium for the 1988 exhibition between the Orioles and Dodgers. The stadium was still in its football configuration, meaning left field was 272 feet away. There was a temporary 30 foot fence in left to cut down on homeruns, and the diamond was much like an astroturf diamond, with dirt cutouts around the bases instead of full dirt basepaths. None of the field seating that exists now is present in 1988.

                    The first picture is rather grainy, but you should be able to make out the layout of the stadium. The second picture shows the short distance to left with the high wall in left. The third is of Tommy Lasorda and Dolphins owner Joe Robbie.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by marlins739 View Post
                      I've always thought the right batters eye' section wasn't really needed, that the area directly behind the pitcher is the left side and the wall of the stands. Still, that kind of thing has been known to curse teams before (I'm thinking of the Chief Nocahoma teepee at Fulton County Stadium). I didn't notice it in 2003.

                      Now that you mention it, I could have sworn during the 2003 World Series (but not the NLDS or NLCS), they actually removed that section of the batter's eye for seating. But perhaps I just imagined that.....

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                      • #26
                        wow, even at 57,359 it still looks empty

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                        • #27
                          LandShark Stadium

                          The Florida Marlins have announced that Joe Robbie/Pro Player/Dolphins/Dolphin Stadium is now named LandShark Stadium. The team also announced that Chevy Chase will throw out the first pitch in the newly renamed ballpark...



                          ...and that fans will be allowed into the game free of charge if they can dupe the ticket taker into accepting a candy-gram, flower delivery or Western Union telegram.
                          I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game.
                          - Walt Whitman

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                          • #28
                            To borrow a TV term, the stadium in Miami Gardens have offically jumped the shark.

                            (audience groans.)

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                            • #29


                              You can see the new LandShark Stadium logo on the scoreboard. Interesting how they put up the Dolphins banners on the right field wall for the introduction ceremony.

                              The many names of the Dolphins/Marlins/Canes stadium, in order of appearance. This has got to be some kind of record

                              Dolphin Stadium
                              Joe Robbie Stadium
                              Pro Player Park
                              Pro Player Stadium
                              Dolphins Stadium
                              Dolphin Stadium again
                              LandShark Stadium, for eight months until Super Bowl XLIV in 2010
                              Dolphin Stadium round 3, or other corporate sponsor
                              1997 2003
                              Parks I've visited: 30 for 30, plus 5 closed

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                              • #30
                                they should kick the marlins out and rename it Marino Stadium and be doen with it!

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