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  • #91
    world's worst grounds crew from june 1993

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bureC...eature=channel

    took almost an hour to get the field in playing shape...
    the turd in the punchbowl
    reality really sucks.
    enjoy the game more...

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    • #92
      That roof is odd--sort of a square version of the old Texas Stadium roof crossed with the Alamo Dome roof supports.

      On the other hand, the orange seats will not be missed. For whatever reason, empty orange seats are more noticable than dark colored seats, even at a Dolphin game where the place is at 90-95% capacity.

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      • #93
        Odd as in good way or bad way?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by The Korean View Post
          Odd as in good way or bad way?
          Odd as in, well, odd...it's a football stadium. So it doesn't have to be beautiful.

          As to reducing the sidelines, I wonder if they will acheive it by a) rebuilding the slope of the lower deck, or b) lowering the field. My money is on b, as it seems more plausible.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Aviator_Frank View Post
            Maybe instead of fancy neon channel lettering over the entrances of the ballpark they should just install a marquee and hand-install the stadium's name on that. "Tonight's ballpark name is: . . . "
            Reminds me of the bottom of the old scoreboard at Veterans Stadium, where every day was a "Day," and the scoreboard had a welcoming message. "Welcome To ________ Day."
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            • #96
              What I want to know is how they are going to deal with the humidity when they have to close the roof due to rain, considering the high humidity in South Florida, which is pretty bad.

              Correction: I did not realize that the roof does not cover the field, so they will be no climate control, but a misting system should be looked into because it gets very hot early in the season.
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              Last edited by SJLT252; 01-08-2010, 07:52 AM.

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              • #97
                The roof they're proposing isn't retractable. That's the entire thing. It's just a fixed canopy over the existing seating bowl and not the playing field. The humidity will be there still. It's not quite so bad in the winter during football season.

                I think they should lower the playing field when the Marlins move out whether they do the rest of this or not. It's ridiculous how far it is from the sidelines, and if they dig it out some more, it will be a lot cheaper than having to rebuild the entire lower deck. But look at the picture, it looks like they're planning to rebuild the long sides of the lower deck. There's a wall in the corner (just above the new tunnel in the interior rendering) that suggests the slope of the lower deck will be flattened on the sideline sides only.

                New seats and a good pressure washing in the seating bowl will do wonders for the Dolph. As it is, the seats they've had to replace are from a different manufacturer and they look a lot less faded than the old ones. There's about 3 different types of seats found in the park right now. They can't do anything about the crappy legroom there, but it will feel a lot newer with seating bowl improvements
                1997 2003
                Parks I've visited: 30 for 30, plus 5 closed

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                • #98
                  The way that they are going to make the sideline seats closer is the same thing they are doing to make the seats closer in the Madison Square Garden renovation, I am wondering how they bring the seating closer to the playing surface and if that can be done without gutting the deck.

                  With the Marlins gone, maybe they will be able to have the best field in football again since they will be no need for infield dirt and inconsistent grass.
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                  Last edited by SJLT252; 01-08-2010, 07:50 AM.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by marlins739 View Post
                    The roof they're proposing isn't retractable. That's the entire thing. It's just a fixed canopy over the existing seating bowl and not the playing field. The humidity will be there still. It's not quite so bad in the winter during football season.

                    I think they should lower the playing field when the Marlins move out whether they do the rest of this or not. It's ridiculous how far it is from the sidelines, and if they dig it out some more, it will be a lot cheaper than having to rebuild the entire lower deck. But look at the picture, it looks like they're planning to rebuild the long sides of the lower deck. There's a wall in the corner (just above the new tunnel in the interior rendering) that suggests the slope of the lower deck will be flattened on the sideline sides only.

                    New seats and a good pressure washing in the seating bowl will do wonders for the Dolph. As it is, the seats they've had to replace are from a different manufacturer and they look a lot less faded than the old ones. There's about 3 different types of seats found in the park right now. They can't do anything about the crappy legroom there, but it will feel a lot newer with seating bowl improvements
                    Why can't they rebulid the end zones and just add some dugout suites since you can't add as many rows as the sideline seats?

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                    • This article has more pictures of the renderings

                      http://www.palmbeachpost.com/multime...S2_139907c.jpg

                      Maybe they don't feel that they could make enough of a difference by lowering the field only. It's 90 feet away from the sidelines, compared to the New Meadowlands' 45 feet. Maybe a combination of lowering the field and flattening the lower deck would do it. They also can't dig down too deep because of the high water table in South Florida. That's why the Marlins' ballpark is entirely above grade
                      1997 2003
                      Parks I've visited: 30 for 30, plus 5 closed

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                      • Originally posted by Jays753 View Post
                        2 WS titles and fans still won't come out. It's a shame.
                        Don't forget the owners of the Marlins always bad mouth the stadium, which doesn't exactly help the attendance. How much worse is the heat in Miami than it is in Arlington, which is the exact same stadium setting, with huge parking lots and no public transportation.

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                        • Remember that Arlington is a far nicer ballpark than the Dolph is. What the owners are saying is all true, and while it's all a ploy to get the new ballpark (it worked), it's not like they're making these things up. I've only been to Arlington once, and it was hot, but not as bad as a July night in Florida. The daily afternoon rain is what really gets them. Read earlier in this thread. South Florida is the worst place in the country for summertime outdoor baseball
                          1997 2003
                          Parks I've visited: 30 for 30, plus 5 closed

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                          • Originally posted by marlins739 View Post
                            I think they should lower the playing field when the Marlins move out whether they do the rest of this or not. It's ridiculous how far it is from the sidelines, and if they dig it out some more, it will be a lot cheaper than having to rebuild the entire lower deck. But look at the picture, it looks like they're planning to rebuild the long sides of the lower deck. There's a wall in the corner (just above the new tunnel in the interior rendering) that suggests the slope of the lower deck will be flattened on the sideline sides only.
                            Does anyone know what they did for the LA Coliseum back in the 1990s when they took out the track and moved in the sidelines? Did they lower the field, rebuild the slope, or both? If you remember when they had the Coliseum exhibition game back in 2008, the left field line was even more ridiculously close than it had been in the 1950s-60s because they had narrowed the field.

                            Which, on a related note, I'd still love to see the Marlins play an exhibition game in Joe Robbie Stadium in 2043 (assuming its still standing). As time goes by, I think they'll be some quirky nostalgia for the old park amongst Marlins fans, although I seriously doubt anyone would want to move back there permanently.

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                            • Wow I am happy and shocked about the dolph upgrades! I didn't think it was that bad for the NFL espically now that they added the extended standing areas on the sides of the stadium. It looks decent though.
                              The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

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                              • Originally posted by PeteU View Post
                                Does anyone know what they did for the LA Coliseum back in the 1990s when they took out the track and moved in the sidelines? Did they lower the field, rebuild the slope, or both? If you remember when they had the Coliseum exhibition game back in 2008, the left field line was even more ridiculously close than it had been in the 1950s-60s because they had narrowed the field.
                                Field lowered, seats added. You can see the division in satellite views between the original seats and the newest ones, about a quarter of the way up.
                                http://www.virtualfenway.com

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