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  • Goodbye ghosts of yankee past!

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseba...3618607.column

    This article talks to a paranormal expert who says when they tear down yankee stadium, any suppossed ghosts will stay there and not move to the new stadium across the street. Not really sure how a ghost who didn't die at yankee stadium can't travel one more time across the street, but not my call.
    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

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    As soon as Yogi sets foot across the street, the spirits will know where to go. He wields a higher power.

    Just to make sure, my family will be holding a seance in Tier 16 on 9/21. You're invited.

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    • #3
      Just as Comerica doesn't conjure the same atmosphere as Tiger Stadium, the New Yankee Stadium will not conjure the same atmosphere as Yankee Stadium. And it's that atmosphere that reminds people of the past.

      I think it's like when a chalkboard is wiped clean, the same will happen with the New Yankee Stadium. That is why I think they should un-retire all the uniform numbers, and begin from stratch in 2009. Damon = #1. Jeter = #2. Abreu = #3. A-Rod = #4, etc. It would be a great tribute to the past, and also incredibly unprecedented at the same time.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by locke40 View Post
        Just as Comerica doesn't conjure the same atmosphere as Tiger Stadium, the New Yankee Stadium will not conjure the same atmosphere as Yankee Stadium. And it's that atmosphere that reminds people of the past.

        I think it's like when a chalkboard is wiped clean, the same will happen with the New Yankee Stadium. That is why I think they should un-retire all the uniform numbers, and begin from stratch in 2009. Damon = #1. Jeter = #2. Abreu = #3. A-Rod = #4, etc. It would be a great tribute to the past, and also incredibly unprecedented at the same time.
        ? Hey I know the new stadium will not be the same as the current stadium but it is the people that play for the FRANCHISE that make the memories. You're talking about trashing all of the great work that those who came before did. Did the Cardinals need to unretire all of their numbers because they've moved twice in the past 42 years. What about the Reds, Pirates or Astros for that matter? It is what the players do for the team that creates the memories. Stadium atmosphere is very important but let's not forget the human aspect of what makes the game special.

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        • #5
          From all I have read, ghosts do have the tendency to stay in a very precise location. Unless it's a Hollywood movie or television show. Except for Poltergeist when they went from one haunted area to another.

          While Comerica does not elicit memories of Tiger Stadium, the monuments and kiosks throughout the stadium keep the history of the franchise alive. History has always been more than just venue. Destroying a battlefield, as has happened so often in modern and not so modern times, doesn't change that a battle was fought there.
          Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
          Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
          Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
          Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
          Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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          • #6
            I know the article touched on this a bit, about ghosts being attached to certain objects and such.

            Is Babe Ruth's old locker still in the stadium? I know Thurman Munson's locker is still in the Yankee clubhouse.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by locke40 View Post
              Just as Comerica doesn't conjure the same atmosphere as Tiger Stadium, the New Yankee Stadium will not conjure the same atmosphere as Yankee Stadium. And it's that atmosphere that reminds people of the past.
              One part of the present Yankee Stadium that will be "brought" to the new ballpark will be Executive Towers, the tall white apartment building that can presently be seen beyond the left field wall.


              (Photo taken April 29, 2006. © Gary Dunaier)

              If my current calculations are correct, it will be just to the right of the new stadium's dead center. As is the case in the present facility, Executive Tower will be able to be seen from the upper deck.

              Don't know if this counts for much in the "atmosphere" department... I know it's not as beloved as the Bronx County Courthouse, but it's all you're going to get.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by JWB13 View Post
                I know the article touched on this a bit, about ghosts being attached to certain objects and such.

                Is Babe Ruth's old locker still in the stadium? I know Thurman Munson's locker is still in the Yankee clubhouse.
                Ruth's Locker is in Cooperstown now, It would be in what's now the vistors clubhouse because that was where the Yankees Dugout and clubhouse was when the Babe played (3rd base side).

                The Ghosts of Yankee Stadium is more a symbolic thing because of all the history that has happened their, there will be new "ghosts" in the new stadium as time goes by. The only Mo-Jo at the stadium is the one that pitches in the 8th & 9th inning and they only seem supernatural!

                As for un-retireing the numbers I think the Yanks should do what the tigers did. On the last game of Yankee stadium or the first game at the New Stadium they should have each player wear the number of past Yankee greats for that game only, that would be a cool way to honor past Yankee greats.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Urbanshocker13 View Post
                  Ruth's Locker is in Cooperstown now, It would be in what's now the vistors clubhouse because that was where the Yankees Dugout and clubhouse was when the Babe played (3rd base side).
                  Ah, thanks.

                  I remember seeing a pic around here of the Babe at his old locker that was taken on 'Babe Ruth Day' shortly before he died, but that was obviously 60 years ago, so I wasn't sure if it was still at the stadium or not.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urbanshocker13 View Post
                    Ruth's Locker is in Cooperstown now, It would be in what's now the vistors clubhouse because that was where the Yankees Dugout and clubhouse was when the Babe played (3rd base side).

                    The Ghosts of Yankee Stadium is more a symbolic thing because of all the history that has happened their, there will be new "ghosts" in the new stadium as time goes by. The only Mo-Jo at the stadium is the one that pitches in the 8th & 9th inning and they only seem supernatural!

                    As for un-retireing the numbers I think the Yanks should do what the tigers did. On the last game of Yankee stadium or the first game at the New Stadium they should have each player wear the number of past Yankee greats for that game only, that would be a cool way to honor past Yankee greats.
                    I like that idea a lot! Good way to pay your respects to some great players who played in a great stadium!

                    My friend in college used to talk about yankee magic. Bad hops, bloop hits, home runs out of nowhere; all at key times. Do you think the new stadium will have that yankee magic???
                    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Urbanshocker13 View Post
                      Ruth's Locker is in Cooperstown now, It would be in what's now the vistors clubhouse because that was where the Yankees Dugout and clubhouse was when the Babe played (3rd base side).

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                      The Yankees changed to their current clubhouse in 1947 according to the tour guide I was following this March. When they held Babe Ruth Day in 1948, he was helped into a Yankee Uniform. Here is a color picture of him sitting in front of "his" locker. It looks to me as if the room he's dressing in isn't a regular clubhouse. It looks as if he's in maybe an unused room. That's just a guess. The locker is in Cooperstown though, as is Lou Gehrig's and Joe Dimaggio's/Mickey Mantle's (Dimaggio and Mantle used the same locker, though not at the same time of course).

                      Notice also the Babe's jersey. It has the interlocking NY on it. The Yankees revived the NY in 1936 after many years of not using it. Babe Ruth NEVER wore the Interlocking NY on his jersey. Just some trivial stuff there.
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                      • #12
                        Goodbye ghosts of yankee past!

                        Originally posted by cgcoyne2 View Post
                        The Yankees changed to their current clubhouse in 1947 according to the tour guide I was following this March. When they held Babe Ruth Day in 1948, he was helped into a Yankee Uniform. Here is a color picture of him sitting in front of "his" locker. It looks to me as if the room he's dressing in isn't a regular clubhouse. It looks as if he's in maybe an unused room. That's just a guess. The locker is in Cooperstown though, as is Lou Gehrig's and Joe Dimaggio's/Mickey Mantle's (Dimaggio and Mantle used the same locker, though not at the same time of course).

                        Notice also the Babe's jersey. It has the interlocking NY on it. The Yankees revived the NY in 1936 after many years of not using it. Babe Ruth NEVER wore the Interlocking NY on his jersey. Just some trivial stuff there.
                        That also means the ghost of Billy Martin will not be at New Yankee Stadium.

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