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Yankee Stadium [I] Demolition

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  • Originally posted by RfkFedEx View Post
    Man I figured that cross aisle had to be original when I sat up their in 2007.

    I knew it had to have been installed before the ADA act, but given its narrowness it seemed much older than something they would have designed in the 70s.

    Did such a walkway exist in the upper deck of OYS?

    Where there any wheel chair platforms in the UL of RYS?

    I'm too young to have seen OYS, but I'm just glad I got to Tiger Stadium in 1999. I will forever bellyache over not having gone to old Comisky for the lone reason that it fell in my lifetime, unlike OYS.
    Here is a photo composite of Yankee Stadium circa 1930's and 1970's taken from almost the exact same spot on top of the Bronx Courhouse rooftop that I had posted here a couple of years ago showing the relationship of the renovated upper deck portals and their original counterparts. The same picture is repeated with the indivudal details described. Finally, here was the whole composite that I had never posted before. The original sources came from a picture purchased from eBay and a 1970's postcard. The bunting that you see hanging from the upper deck are from the 1930's picture.

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    • Originally posted by Aviator_Frank View Post
      One thing I need to correct - the rows were added mainly to counterbalance the upper deck since it was being cantilevered instead of supported by columns.

      Without those added rows and their weight you'd have to attach those cables in New Jersey to hold the upper deck in place.
      Which makes this demolition quite the interesting one. Whats going to happen once they release tension on those cables?

      My guess is that the entire area from lf to rf is going to be supported by some sort of fabricated jackstand. Maybe by spring they will have that done.
      www.demolitionofyankeestadium.com

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      • Originally posted by Jim Vaz View Post
        Well I do agree, there was something very majestic about the lines of the old stadium and its angles.

        However when you're inside the new place, you really don't notice it as much as you do when its seen from above.
        As an avid baseball stadium fan, I DO notice the difference. The New Yankee Stadium feels very disconnected from the field, compared to the Renovated Yankee Stadium. I very much noticed the difference in the overhand of the Mezzanine and the Upper Deck from the RYS to the lack of ANY overhang in the NYS.
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        • Originally posted by Jim Vaz View Post
          Sure. I believe Grambling played a few games there after the renovation and there was 2 soccer games played by the Cosmos in the summer of 1976 which would have been after the renovation and the stadium was already reopened.
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          The NY Cosmos played their 1976 NASL season in Yankee Stadium. I believe they started their season in May. Giants Stadium did not open until the fall. They moved to Giants Stadium in 1977.

          The NY Jets played at least two pre-season games in RYS in August '76. One against the Redskins, and ironically one against the Giants, with the Giants being the road team. The Jets may have played a third against Oakland too.
          Last edited by YankeesFan; 01-17-2010, 11:40 PM.

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          • Originally posted by RfkFedEx View Post
            Man I figured that cross aisle had to be original when I sat up their in 2007.

            I knew it had to have been installed before the ADA act, but given its narrowness it seemed much older than something they would have designed in the 70s.

            Did such a walkway exist in the upper deck of OYS?

            Where there any wheel chair platforms in the UL of RYS?

            I'm too young to have seen OYS, but I'm just glad I got to Tiger Stadium in 1999. I will forever bellyache over not having gone to old Comisky for the lone reason that it fell in my lifetime, unlike OYS.
            no room for wheelchairs in oys and rys upper deck, the original cross aisle is what shows up in the photo of mike burke.
            had a chance to go to both tiger stadium and comiskey park in their last years, both upper decks were very close to the field and the sox removed many of the signs from the 60's/70's/80's to reveal many old artifacts that had been covered for years.
            the turd in the punchbowl
            reality really sucks.
            enjoy the game more...

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            • Originally posted by Aviator_Frank View Post
              One thing I need to correct - the rows were added mainly to counterbalance the upper deck since it was being cantilevered instead of supported by columns.

              Without those added rows and their weight you'd have to attach those cables in New Jersey to hold the upper deck in place.
              Both you and Paul's points are correct. But offsetting seating losses was a bonus of that reconfiguration. A "mulligan" if you will.
              RYS to NYS: "Obi-Lonn never told you what happened to your father."

              NYS: "He told me enough. He told me you killed him - in the 1970s!!"

              RYS: "No, I am your father..."

              NYS: "No, it's not true, that's impossible!!!!"

              RYS: "Look beyond my respirator pods and my upper crown; you know it to be true!

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              • I've learned so much from this thread over the last three days. I can now see why this is such a complicated demo, but I still don't get the 15+ months it will take. Then again, I’m not an engineer.

                The closed off concourse in RYS reminds me of that abandoned Subway tunnel with a junked train still parked in it somewhere in NYC (I'm pretty sure).

                I learned about it on a show called America's Best Kept Secrets which was hosted my Al Michaels and aired sometime in the late 80s.

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                • Originally posted by YankeesFan View Post
                  The NY Jets played at least two pre-season games in RYS in August '76. One against the Redskins, and ironically one against the Giants, with the Giants being the road team. The Jets may have played a third against Oakland too.
                  I wonder why the Jets didn't play preseason '76 at Shea. I can't see a reason for scheduling conflict with the Mets considering the two had shared Flushing for years.

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                  • With the netting surrounding the stadium to contain dust particles and other airborne debris, along with the meticulous and cleanliness being observed during the demolition, (you must admit that the site is very clean) I believe that it's a foregone conclusion that the upper deck will somehow be taken apart and not dropped into a heap by cutting the cables.

                    It's not only a matter of containing the dust from the crumbling concrete, but also from the dirt that it falls on. There would be a cloud that would engulf the entire area, not just the stadium. That's a heavy chunk of concrete up there. It's also obvious that they want everything cleared out before they tackle that monster. I still wonder why they're not revealing their plans and keeping this all a secret.

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                    • Originally posted by RfkFedEx View Post
                      I wonder why the Jets didn't play preseason '76 at Shea. I can't see a reason for scheduling conflict with the Mets considering the two had shared Flushing for years.
                      I believe I remember reading or watching somewhere that the Mets wouldn't allow the Jets to play home games until the baseball season was over so they wouldn't rip up the field....which is why for the longest time they didn't have a home game in Aug/Sept. while playing at shea, and also the reason why they ultimately left Queens for the Meadowlands

                      from wikipedia
                      Move to the Meadowlands (1984–1989)

                      After the 1983 season, the Jets' lease with the city for the use of Shea Stadium expired, and the Jets would have needed to cut a new deal to remain at the stadium. Due to the complexity of switching Shea from baseball to football configuration, the Jets had faced onerous lease terms at the stadium until 1978 when they weren't able to play home games until the Mets completed their season. Often the Mets' status as the stadium's primary tenant would necessitate that the Jets go on long road trips early in the season.
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                      • Originally posted by Mattingly85MVP View Post
                        they weren't able to play home games until the Mets completed their season.
                        That is crazy. The union would never allow such a policy today.

                        I wonder what the Jets did in '69 when the Mets were using the stadium till mid October?

                        I know the Giants played at the Yale Bowl for one of the two years between OYS and the Meadowlands.

                        Did the Giants ever play any home games at Shea?

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                        • Originally posted by RfkFedEx View Post
                          That is crazy. The union would never allow such a policy today.

                          I wonder what the Jets did in '69 when the Mets were using the stadium till mid October?

                          I know the Giants played at the Yale Bowl for one of the two years between OYS and the Meadowlands.

                          Did the Giants ever play any home games at Shea?
                          Well the NFL was a much different league 41 years ago. Now its surpassed even americas past time baseball in fans and viewership.

                          Yes the Giants did play home games at Shea. There a few pictures somewhere on this board, maybe even in this thread. I believe it was 1975, 1976, or maybe both. Someone else I'm sure here can confirm the year(s).

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                          • Originally posted by RfkFedEx View Post
                            That is crazy. The union would never allow such a policy today.

                            I wonder what the Jets did in '69 when the Mets were using the stadium till mid October?

                            I know the Giants played at the Yale Bowl for one of the two years between OYS and the Meadowlands.

                            Did the Giants ever play any home games at Shea?
                            My family had Jets FST's thru the whole Shea era. In 1969, they opened with 5 road games, then an incredible 7 straight home games, and then 2 road games.
                            They were 3-2 on the road, then 5-2 at home, then 2-0 on the road.....culminating with a 13-6 playoff home loss to KC where they could not get in from the one(1st down)....Mister B from BF was standing in the end zone for that.

                            In 1973, the Jets had to play SIX straight games on the road to start the season. That season, they played 8 road games and only 6 home games !

                            The Giants played most of 1973, and all of 1974 at the Yale Bowl. They played at Shea in 1975.

                            The Jets played preseason games at RYS in 1976 in order to try to pressure the Mets into giving in a bit. In 1977, the Jets actually played a regular season game versus the Colts on September 25, 1977 (second game of season) at Giants Stadium as a warning that they were looking to move. They could not get out of the Shea lease so they had to wait until 1983.

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                            • Originally posted by mandrake View Post
                              The Jets played preseason games at RYS in 1976 in order to try to pressure the Mets into giving in a bit. In 1977, the Jets actually played a regular season game versus the Colts on September 25, 1977 (second game of season) at Giants Stadium as a warning that they were looking to move. They could not get out of the Shea lease so they had to wait until 1983.
                              I've read all through the 'Ballparks in football configuration' thread but never saw any pics of RYS.

                              I surprised the Jets lease at Shea allowed them to pedal any of their home games around NYC considering there were only 7 regular season, home NFL games back then.

                              Did the NFL have to adjust the Jets schedule during the season in '69 and '73 when the Mets made the post season?

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                              • Originally posted by RfkFedEx View Post
                                I've read all through the 'Ballparks in football configuration' thread but never saw any pics of RYS.

                                I surprised the Jets lease at Shea allowed them to pedal any of their home games around NYC considering there were only 7 regular season, home NFL games back then.

                                Did the NFL have to adjust the Jets schedule during the season in '69 and '73 when the Mets made the post season?
                                1969, I think the 5 road games were scheduled. Since the Jets won the Super Bowl at the end of the '68 season, they were expected to be in the playoffs. The Mets said NO OCTOBER football.

                                In 1968, they opened the first 3 on the road. The Jets first game was actually a Saturday night on 10/5/68, game 4 of the season. This was in the AFL. And, for reasons that I don't know, in 1970 they played Miami on a Saturday night 10/10/70 for the home opener. This was the first year of the NFL merger.

                                In 1973, one of the first 6 games was rescheduled. I think they switched home and away with the Patriots; and the October 21st game was moved to Pittsburgh giving the Steelers 8 home games. This helped them go 10-4 and winning the tie breaker with Cincy for first.

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