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Originally posted by Sonnenblume View PostBut, I heard some ideas and they sounded like really good ones...ideas espousing both change and preservation. Conversion of the vast parking lots to municipal parks while the field, concourse and dugouts remain intact. The dugouts for museums, the field for...well, hell -- THE FIELD...and so on. These things sound cost-effective, innovative, sufficiently revenue-generating (and thereby self-funding) and...most importantly...reverent.
With the current plan Yankee Stadium will be 100% gone without a trace. How's that for reverence?
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Originally posted by Cubs1945 View PostFrom 1976-2008 we had a Yankee Stadium with no frieze, no death valley, no Yankee Stadium letters on the lower exterior wall in front. The time to save Yankee Stadium was 35 years ago. Could you image Wrigley with no ivy or Fenway with no green monster or Old Comiskey with no arched windows? That is Yankee Stadium without the frieze. Plus a majority of the seats are in the upper deck and they are steep. Who wants that?
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Originally posted by SparkyL View PostThat was the original plan - to preserve the field, some field level seating, the dugouts and the underground concourses (and locker room).
With the current plan Yankee Stadium will be 100% gone without a trace. How's that for reverence?
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As a Yankee fan, I will definitely miss OYS. I think the reason there is no outcry is Yankee fans have a sense of resignation about the whole matter. The NYS is being built, and here is no turning back. We can rant and rave, but it'll do no good. Many I think feel as I do, that NYS will be terrific (restuarant obstructions notwithstanding), and maybe it'll be a worthy replacement. I'd rather no new stadium, but what can be done? They are building the damn new place. It's too late now.
I'm going to pretend, and I mean really hard, that NYS is really an updated OYS, on the same field, at the same location. Yeah, it's not true, but hell, let me fool myself enough.
Oh and the image of YS being demolished will really break my heart. But folks, it's coming, and there ain't a damn thing we can do about it.
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I just posted in the Tigers demolition thread saying it's sad for stadiums with history to go but I will not argue to see Yankee Stadium go. My disdain for that stadium has reached it's limits and my front screen during the offseason will most definately be a picture of that place being torn down.
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Originally posted by monkeypants View PostThat's a bit unfair. The city was compelled to demolish the entire stadium in part by local community groups who were not satisfied that the preserved field/stands was an adequate substitution for the loss of green space.
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Originally posted by SparkyL View PostTrue - but it sure would have been nice to have known that before the new Stadium was approved . . . .
I'm a bit torn on this issue. I'm not sure I would have been happier to see a remnant of the stadium still standing, which would have been (probably) more expensive for the city to maintain, and which (probably) would have meant less community access to the green space created (there is no way "Heritage Field" was going to be truly open to the public like a normal park). In fact, seeing the shell of the old stadium may have just filled me with more melancholy.
Perhaps it's best that they have decided to leave only the footprint in the form of a few ball fields. We have now unprecedented ability to record--between videos and photos and 3-D models, etc, the old stadium will be recorded and documented and "preserved" in a way that no other historic park has been before. It will not be forgotten.
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Originally posted by rwolfe09 View PostI just posted in the Tigers demolition thread saying it's sad for stadiums with history to go but I will not argue to see Yankee Stadium go. My disdain for that stadium has reached it's limits and my front screen during the offseason will most definately be a picture of that place being torn down.
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Originally posted by Cubs1945 View PostFrom 1976-2008 we had a Yankee Stadium with no frieze, no death valley, no Yankee Stadium letters on the lower exterior wall in front. The time to save Yankee Stadium was 35 years ago. Could you image Wrigley with no ivy or Fenway with no green monster or Old Comiskey with no arched windows? That is Yankee Stadium without the frieze. Plus a majority of the seats are in the upper deck and they are steep. Who wants that?
It was butchered years ago and that was the time to get worked up over it.
The Yankee Stadium that we see today is just a shell of the old, and in my opinion, the real Yankee Stadium.
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Originally posted by GreekGuy87 View PostI think i've been pretty vociferous about by dislike that they're tearing down YS, but why should I care if Yankee fans don't? I'm a Mets fan and I bleed Orange & Blue(Black too) but I think it's just wrong to tear down a piece of American history. I feel the same way about this as I do about Comiskey (Although I didn't pay much attention to that and Tiger Stadium (But to their credit Comerica looks fantasic). And I would express the same ammount of disdain if they even tryed to take down Fenway or Wrigley, even though I think Red Sox or Cubs fans would never let that happen. Just as I though Yankee fans would never let YS be torn down, but I was wrong. From what i've seen and heard the majority Yankee fans lack the passion to have stopped it from the beginning.
Like you said before, it's hard for me to care when most Yankee fans don't even care that they are destroying a huge piece of their history and a piece of baseball history.
You can tell there are Yankee fans out there that are jealous that the Red Sox get to keep their old time gem with the history thats father & son have been going to since 1912. I see some Yankee fans now are pushing that the Red Sox should get a new stadium for more revenue and yada yada...My question to them is always you do you care and why do you want your biggest rival to get more money? And usually they never have an answer back. They're jealous. As they should be.
Damn shame.
But I guess the only real thing Ill miss about the stadium is the history. Besides that, Im sick of cramped isles and always bumping into people just to move along in the tier section. Heck, if you walk by the third base side of the stadium, the padded seats are all torn up. The history will be tough to replace, but in the end, I know that 10, 15 years from now, I'll hopefully be taking my son to the New Stadium and creating memories there.
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Originally posted by yankies4life View PostHeck, if you walk by the third base side of the stadium, the padded seats are all torn up.
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Originally posted by rwolfe09 View PostI just posted in the Tigers demolition thread saying it's sad for stadiums with history to go but I will not argue to see Yankee Stadium go. My disdain for that stadium has reached it's limits and my front screen during the offseason will most definately be a picture of that place being torn down.
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Originally posted by yankies4life View PostBut I guess the only real thing Ill miss about the stadium is the history. Besides that, Im sick of cramped isles and always bumping into people just to move along in the tier section. Heck, if you walk by the third base side of the stadium, the padded seats are all torn up. The history will be tough to replace, but in the end, I know that 10, 15 years from now, I'll hopefully be taking my son to the New Stadium and creating memories there.
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