Yankee Stadium [I] Demolition

[DN4L]

If the new stadium zealots weren't sensitive to criticisms about the charges of reduced volume in the new stadium there wouldn't be pages and pages on here trying to defend/explain/bolster the volume level in the new stadium. Face it guys, it's recessed and spread out. The sound escapes and it has farther to travel. And don't be ridiculous, a few hundred empty seats in the moat has absolutely nothing to do with it. When they play the recording of God Bless America on television I can barely hear it and in the old stadium we could hear it so well. I barely hear Paul Olden from tv, we never had this problem hearing Bob Sheppard.

Maybe you're hearing it from the "New Stadium Zealots" LATELY, is because we're getting fed up with the months and months of bashing of NYS..
I'm starting to hate RYS, because of all the crap that's been written about NYS here on BBF!

You guys don't like the new place? Fine.. Don't go.
I'll say this as a season ticket holder... I've never heard one criticism from any Yankee fan, while at a game there.
Only praise...

And I'm being ridiculous over the few hundred or so empty seats?
First, it's more than a few hundred.. Second, you are comparing the two stadiums from watching the God Bless America 7th inning stretch on TV...
A 7th inning God Bless America comparison on TV??
Holycow!!! How many Yankee fans out there actually pay attention to a comparison like this one??!!

[DN4L]

I've been a lifelong Yankee follower going back to 1951 and like many others, I have no attachment to Yankee Stadium since the renovation of 1974-75. I don't even want a brick. Yes...Yankee Stadium died in 1973. Apart from the obvious omission of the frieze, the original Yankee Stadium's dimensions made for exciting baseball. There were numerous triples and inside-the-park homeruns, the most exciting plays in baseball. Today, those hits are rare and virtually require that a hit be misplayed or that a fielder fall down. In addition, the centerfield on-field monuments and flagpole added a little variety to long hits. Then there was the time Jimmy Piersall stood by them one day talking to fans as Ryne Duren was at bat. Although I think that the new stadium is much better than the 1974 renovation, I was disappointed that they kept the cookie-cutter, bland, plain vanilla outfield dimensions...like 1950's Soviet architecture...rather than introducing a few unusual features and angles that would result in races around the bases. Other new fields did a much better job of incorporating old-tyme features.

I could just imagine your disgust and dismay of RYS, back in April of 1976...

[DN4L]

first people complained it was taking to long now its going to fast- people love to complain

I for one can't wait for the demolition to be completed now..

Out with the "renovated"..
In with the "new"!

[shaneslatts]

I think as one here who was very obnoxious to those who really liked NYS, that maybe its time to let the anger rest.
OYS, RYS, whatever you wish to call it, is almost gone.
I feel that at this time, its time to stop the fighting and pay respects.
No matter how one may feel about the renovation, there was always one thing that can not be denied.
Old Yankee Stadium was there, hidden in the renovation.
The parts of Old Yankee Stadium came down along with the Renovated Yankee Stadium. They both are almost now totaly gone.
So can we all just simply say.......
Good bye Old Girl, R.I.P

[quagmire]

I think as one here who was very obnoxious to those who really liked NYS, that maybe its time to let the anger rest.
OYS, RYS, whatever you wish to call it, is almost gone.
I feel that at this time, its time to stop the fighting and pay respects.
No matter how one may feel about the renovation, there was always one thing that can not be denied.
Old Yankee Stadium was there, hidden in the renovation.
The parts of Old Yankee Stadium came down along with the Renovated Yankee Stadium. They both are almost now totaly gone.
So can we all just simply say.......
Good bye Old Girl, R.I.P

Think it is time to let the anger over the renovated OYS go as well. Nothing was hidden. You could still see Yankee Stadium plain and clear after the renovation. Ok, they tore down 95% of Gate 4 and 6, removed the roof, the copper frieze, columns, and they added pods and concrete frieze to the outfield as well as extending the upper deck. With the exceptions of those additions and removals, the stadium was still Yankee Stadium.

That is why I refuse to use the RYS name. OYS was still OYS. Pre or Post Renovation. Yes, there were mistakes, but I bet before the renovation was done there were complaints about the Pre-Renovated Yankee Stadium. Just those are hidden with the hatred for the renovation. There are things people don't like about NYS. Fact is no stadium is perfect.

[RationalNYYfan]

The argument for or against the new Yankee Stadium has pretty much been refined to the same couple of talking points repeated time and time again by a select few people here.

It's either:

-NYS is so beautiful, RYS was ugly because of the pod in front of Gate 4.

Or it's:

-NYS replaced the greatest sports venue in the world.

That's been the trending argument for weeks now it seems like. I know I haven't brought anything to the table lately, but I definitely can't wait to see the new stadium again this summer. I want to go to Monument Park for sure. And by the way, I'm hearing nothing but good things about the new Monument Park...except for the folks who only have seen it from their seats.

[Mike Wagner]

Dear Friends,

Looking at the photos of what's left of old Yankee Stadium, how thick would you say the cement of the exterior wall is? It doesn't look as thick as I would have thought.

[shaneslatts]

Dear Friends,

Looking at the photos of what's left of old Yankee Stadium, how thick would you say the cement of the exterior wall is? It doesn't look as thick as I would have thought.

Mike, its hard to tell, but I would guess 7-8 inches thick

[Mike Wagner]

Dear shaneslatts,

Thank you for your estimate. I guess I was thinking it would be a few feet thick, anyway, given the weight of the stands with people, vibrations, and whatever else construction experts would figure into the equation.

-Mike

[Maas_Pasqua_Pags]

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Dear shaneslatts,

Thank you for your estimate. I guess I was thinking it would be a few feet thick, anyway, given the weight of the stands with people, vibrations, and whatever else construction experts would figure into the equation.

-Mike

[Rob R]

Dear Friends,

Looking at the photos of what's left of old Yankee Stadium, how thick would you say the cement of the exterior wall is? It doesn't look as thick as I would have thought.

Hi Mike. Funny you should say that; that was my impression too:

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?78640-Yankee-Stadium-Demolition&p=1716184#post1716184

[MarcianoNY]

The argument for or against the new Yankee Stadium has pretty much been refined to the same couple of talking points repeated time and time again by a select few people here.

It's either:

-NYS is so beautiful, RYS was ugly because of the pod in front of Gate 4.

Or it's:

-NYS replaced the greatest sports venue in the world.

That's been the trending argument for weeks now it seems like. I know I haven't brought anything to the table lately, but I definitely can't wait to see the new stadium again this summer. I want to go to Monument Park for sure. And by the way, I'm hearing nothing but good things about the new Monument Park...except for the folks who only have seen it from their seats.

Anyone have any photos of the updated Monument Park this year? I'm kinda anxious to see the changes too... As of last year that was my LEAST favorite thing about NYS, and the least respectful to Yankee history. As long as it's still in the "Monument Bat Cave" I probably won't be completely happy with it, but maybe the setup will be nicer and less dungeon-looking.

[threeyoda]

Anyone have any photos of the updated Monument Park this year? I'm kinda anxious to see the changes too... As of last year that was my LEAST favorite thing about NYS, and the least respectful to Yankee history. As long as it's still in the "Monument Bat Cave" I probably won't be completely happy with it, but maybe the setup will be nicer and less dungeon-looking.

Monument Park is exactly the same as last year. Nothing changed at all. I don't know where you got the idea of a new setup.

[DarkAudit]

Never been a Yankee fan, and likely never will, but as a baseball fan, full stop, NYS lost me when they didn't even try to evoke the old dimensions of ORS or even the first few years of RYS.

That's all I've got to say about that. I'm here for the documenting of history. Whether it turns out for good or ill is for later generations to judge.

[giantsean]

Dear shaneslatts,

Thank you for your estimate. I guess I was thinking it would be a few feet thick, anyway, given the weight of the stands with people, vibrations, and whatever else construction experts would figure into the equation.

-Mike

Mike... you have to consider that the facade did not have to bear much, if any weight. Most of the strength of the structure was in the steel, and the wall was poured in front to make it look pretty. You can see that the concrete areas that did need to support weight - like the floors, or the inside walls - were visibly thicker. Still 2-3 feet would be kind of overkill even for a structural concrete wall, even in the 20's. I will admit however that I also found the facade to be thinner than I expected