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  • Originally posted by Gary Dunaier View Post
    Part of that line of thinking could be, 'I'm not going to get a close-up view like I can on TV, so if I'm going to the game I want the experience of feeling that I'm at the game, and I can get that better from sitting all the way upstairs where I can see everything.'
    I feel college football is such a blast to go to a game so you don't miss out on the excitement of the band and the tailgates and poking fun at rival schools that you don't get on tv. The pros I can go either way if I see it in person its fun, but I like all of the stats I get on tv and don't have to deal with the obnoxious fans that seem to only go to pro games.

    Originally posted by stumpmerrill View Post
    The new Stadiums are much higher than the old ones. At the old meadolands Stadium I used to sit in the last row in the UD for a few years and I had a great view, at the new Stadium the last row in the UD is basically the first row in the UP in the new Stadium. It's really high upstairs and it is like that in many new Stadiums.
    Yeah these newer stadiums are catering more and more towards the bigger dollars so they build more and more suits costing the middle man a closer view from higher levels. Its a double edge sword to me, because you get new ammenities like being able to watch the cowboys run out of the locker room while in a bar, but you have seats a million miles away in the same stadium.
    The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

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    • Originally posted by Jpiarull View Post
      The Marlins are supposed to be awarded the all-star game in 2015, from what I am hearing?
      I don't think it's been awarded to the Marlins yet, but they're trying to get that game.

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      • Originally posted by Chevy114 View Post
        Not to play devils advocate, but my dad used to love his seat in the top of the bucs stadium because "I can see everything, I have sat lower and sometimes the views get obstructed." So I guess some people really do like that, not me, but some people.
        I love sitting in the upper deck for football, just not at Joe Robbie because the field is far from the stands and the upper deck is set back and not steep so you get the feeling you are not on top of the action. I loved the upper deck at Giants Stadium, no matter where you sat you had the feeling of being right on top of the field which is what I love if I'm sitting up top.

        And I haven't have been too any of the new football stadiums yet so I'm not comparing JR to them, it's just my feeling on being so far from the field at that stadium. I live in the Charlotte area now so I go to a bunch of Panthers games and that upper deck is much like Giants Stadium where you feel like you are on top of the field. B of A Stadium is a great place to watch football from any seat if anyone is thinking about seeing a game there.

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        • Originally posted by chip View Post
          Are you guys really complaining about going to football games in Sept. & Oct.?

          Try a Browns game in December!!!!!!!!!!!!

          As for the distance from the field of your upper deck.
          Here are a couple of comparisons to Cleveland Browns Stadium.
          Both photos are scaled the same with reference lines for the front of the lower decks,
          upper decks and last rows.





          What do you think of that?

          And I’ll also add that the height and the steepness of the upper deck in Cleveland is
          absolutely unbelievable!

          I think that sucks for Cleveland.

          I haven't been to any of the newer football stadiums so I was comparing JR to places like Giants Stadium and B of A Stadium. Still the upper deck at JR is horrible and you feel like you are a million miles away. The stands are sooooo far from the field and not steep at all so you feel distant from the action. I don't know about Cleveland but if the upper deck is step and angled down towards the field then I imagine it's better than JR.

          And about the partial roof covering at JR, I think protection from the strong sun is more of a reason to have the roof than protection from the rain. There is no shade in that stadium and the partial roof will make it much better for the fans. The rain issue is way overblown. If they played during the summer then yeah it would be a serious issue during 4pm games, but in the fall it's usually bright and sunny and once in awhile an occasional deluge will pass through. But it's nothing like the 5pm summer onslaught of massive amounts of rain in a 15 minutes period every day during the summer. There is a reason why they call Florida the sunshine state and it's because the sun is shining the majority of the time.

          Also, for the Marlins the strong summer sun and the overbearing humidity is the reason for a dome, rain is secondary because they don't get many rain outs and it only rains for very brief periods of time.

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          • the dolphins want the roof and they are using the league leverage/clout to try to twist taxpayers arms to get it.
            using the prospect of no super bowls there (gasp!) is just another tactic to get what they (franchise owners) want and not pay for it.
            dolphins see what the marlins owners have wrung out of the taxpayers and they want the same handout using the big game as leverage.
            who knows, maybe they'll (nfl) try the same thing in jacksonville - or other places without a roof.
            joe robbie would have just gone and raised the capital needed himself to get the job done - he did it for the building.
            the turd in the punchbowl
            reality really sucks.
            enjoy the game more...

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            • Originally posted by GordonGecko View Post
              Yep, build a new park - get an All-Star game. The NFL has a better deal, build a stadium - get a Super Bowl. The ASG isn't all that special anymore
              Apparently that doesn't apply to the Padres, Phillies, Reds, or Nationals.

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              • Originally posted by SanDiegoPadres1969 View Post
                Apparently that doesn't apply to the Padres, Phillies, Reds, or Nationals.
                I'm sure they will get one soon. It's just that those are all NL teams and the ASG switches every year.

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                • Originally posted by Paul W View Post
                  the dolphins want the roof and they are using the league leverage/clout to try to twist taxpayers arms to get it.
                  using the prospect of no super bowls there (gasp!) is just another tactic to get what they (franchise owners) want and not pay for it.
                  dolphins see what the marlins owners have wrung out of the taxpayers and they want the same handout using the big game as leverage.
                  who knows, maybe they'll (nfl) try the same thing in jacksonville - or other places without a roof.
                  joe robbie would have just gone and raised the capital needed himself to get the job done - he did it for the building.
                  I don't think the nfl would ever not use miami for a super bowl, it's miami. Its the perfect climate except for the 1 out of 10 super bowls it rained and its got what the players want good clubs and close to the beach. If you see a reacurring theme here the nfl likes to put the superbowl in places with good weather and a lot of fun things to do around town, and I don't see them cutting their nose off to spit there face to get a roof on jr.
                  The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

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                  • Originally posted by stumpmerrill View Post
                    The new Stadiums are much higher than the old ones. At the old meadolands Stadium I used to sit in the last row in the UD for a few years and I had a great view, at the new Stadium the last row in the UD is basically the first row in the UP in the new Stadium. It's really high upstairs and it is like that in many new Stadiums.
                    I believe the vertical distance in upper decks for new stadiums have not changed a whole lot, it's lateral, horizontal distance that has increased dramatically. Thanks to Populus with their "bowl" seating design, instead of stacked cantilevered tiers, seats are purposely placed farther back, as much as 40-50 feet previously. The angle at which you see the field seems sharper due to this, I had that look when I sat in the 2nd-to-last row in UP in NYS. However, my view was incredibly better for where I was sitting, I could see all the way into the near corner and see all plays develop without having to stand up, you also feel you're on top of the action from this view as well.

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                    • Originally posted by Jpiarull View Post
                      I believe the vertical distance in upper decks for new stadiums have not changed a whole lot, it's lateral, horizontal distance that has increased dramatically. Thanks to Populus with their "bowl" seating design, instead of stacked cantilevered tiers, seats are purposely placed farther back, as much as 40-50 feet previously. The angle at which you see the field seems sharper due to this, I had that look when I sat in the 2nd-to-last row in UP in NYS. However, my view was incredibly better for where I was sitting, I could see all the way into the near corner and see all plays develop without having to stand up, you also feel you're on top of the action from this view as well.
                      I don't think NYS is bad but the new meadowlands Stadium is further back and higher.

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                      • Originally posted by Jpiarull View Post
                        I believe the vertical distance in upper decks for new stadiums have not changed a whole lot, it's lateral, horizontal distance that has increased dramatically. Thanks to Populus with their "bowl" seating design, instead of stacked cantilevered tiers, seats are purposely placed farther back, as much as 40-50 feet previously. The angle at which you see the field seems sharper due to this, I had that look when I sat in the 2nd-to-last row in UP in NYS. However, my view was incredibly better for where I was sitting, I could see all the way into the near corner and see all plays develop without having to stand up, you also feel you're on top of the action from this view as well.
                        They are much higher than they used to be. The last row at Cowboys Stadium is about 170 feet vertically from the playing field. Now consider that PNC Park's highest seat is only 88 feet.
                        I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game.
                        - Walt Whitman

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                        • Marlins Stadium Retractable Roof 'Tops Out'

                          http://www.local10.com/sports/27323472/detail.html

                          Chairman of the Bored ©

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                          • Originally posted by mdseverin View Post
                            I'm sure they will get one soon. It's just that those are all NL teams and the ASG switches every year.
                            Reds management gave up on the ASG for the time being, as Cincinnati does not have adequate convention space for the FanFest. Not sure about the other cities.

                            Regarding the cheap seats - I love baseball from the upper deck behind home plate. Best value in most parks besides Boston, Washington and Pittsburgh.

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                            • Originally posted by mdseverin View Post
                              I'm sure they will get one soon. It's just that those are all NL teams and the ASG switches every year.
                              I'm sure you're right. It just ticks me off a little to hear about the Mets possibly getting the 2013 ASG, and now the Marlins possibly getting the 2015 game, with absolutely no mention of the Padres getting one, even though Petco Park opened 5 and 8 years before those places, respectively (I'd imagine Phillies fans feel the same way). Heck, it took the Diamondbacks 13 years to get an All-Star Game! They were bypassed in 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, and 2009, before finally getting it this year. I really think priority should be given to the ballparks that open first.
                              Last edited by SanDiegoPadres1969; 03-27-2011, 11:08 PM.

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                              • Originally posted by SanDiegoPadres1969 View Post
                                I'm sure you're right. It just ticks me off a little to hear about the Mets possibly getting the 2013 ASG, and now the Marlins possibly getting the 2015 game, with absolutely no mention of the Padres getting one, even though Petco Park opened 5 and 8 years, respectively, before those places (I'd imagine Phillies fans feel the same way). Heck, it took the Diamondbacks 13 years to get an All-Star Game!
                                Don't forget NYS sometime around 2016!

                                Heres the list of active ballparks that have never hosted the game:
                                * Sun Life Stadium, opened in 1987; the Marlins have played there since 1993
                                * Tropicana Field, opened in 1990; the Rays have played there since 1998
                                * Great American Ball Park, the Reds have played there since 2003
                                * Citizens Bank Park, the Phillies have played there since 2004
                                * PETCO Park, the Padres have played there since 2004
                                * Nationals Park, the Nationals have played there since 2008
                                * Citi Field, the Mets have played there since 2009
                                * Yankee Stadium (New), the Yankees have played there since 2009
                                * Target Field, the Twins have played there since 2010

                                Sun life will never host, but the marlins ballpark probably will in 2015, as the marlins fanbase needs a boose
                                The Trop will probably have to at some point due to lack of AL ballclubs that haven't hosted, maybe 2016 or 2018? That is if it's not replaced or scheduled to be replaced by then.
                                GABP as stated above doesn't have the convetion space required for the fan fest, expect them to get on once this is rectified.
                                CBP won't get one for the saftey of the players (kidding!) 2019 perhaps?
                                PETCO 2019 or 2021
                                NATs - 2017 only because that team can use a fanbase boost
                                CF - 2015 - Mets fans need a boost, and MLB is going to want to get New York out of the way early so they can come back to NYS sooner, as there is again a lack of new AL parks
                                NYS - 2016 if Oakland or the Trop aren't replaced sooner. If they are expect NYS to get pushed back.
                                Target - 2014

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