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  • Originally posted by grimthorpe View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks moving LF in 13' is going overboard? Citi Field will now be only marginally larger than Citizens Bank Park, almost universally derided as a bandbox. Yet this makes people happy.
    I don't mean this to sound as flippant as I know it will appear at first glance but why not a bandbox?
    Now, I disagree that the new measurements make CF as bad as Citizens Bank or even New Yankee Stadium for that matter,
    but we were terrible in OCF and although I know a lot of that is the roster,
    I say enough with the theories and predictions of doom and gloom, let's give it a shot and see what happens.

    If the Mets lose twice as many games, they'll change the fences again, bet on that.
    And only because it's cheaper to move the fences in and out than it is to make whole changes to a team when you're broke.

    Besides, it's not like they're screwing up the team's chances of winning one for the thumb.
    Last edited by KoosFan; 02-16-2012, 04:34 PM.

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    • Originally posted by peterrod16 View Post
      If that pic is recent then they seem to be moving at a lethargic pace.

      Btw R.I.P. Gary Carter
      STOP ABUSING COFFEE

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      • Originally posted by RayNY View Post
        If that pic is recent then they seem to be moving at a lethargic pace.
        Not shown: Jeff Wilpon building the fence by hand. That explains the slowness.
        The Mets have the best, smartest fans in baseball.

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        • If the Mets lose twice as many games, they'll change the fences again, bet on that.
          And only because it's cheaper to move the fences in and out than it is to make whole changes to a team when you're broke.


          When's the last time a team actually moved the fences back? I guess the Phillies after the first year at CBP when it was an absolute joke. And it still pretty much is.

          People only clamor to move the fences in, not out. They just want to see their home runs. Period. There'd be enormous pressure against moving the fences back.

          And I really do think the changes in LF are too much. Moving the fences in 13' AND lowering the wall by half really is a dramatic change. I wouldn't call it neutral. At least make it 375' to LC.

          If they just originally made it a nice 382' or so to LC with an 8 or 9' wall none of this would have happened. They overdid it.

          I really have no problem with what they did in RF and RC, though. I think those changes are fair.

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          • Originally posted by grimthorpe View Post
            If the Mets lose twice as many games, they'll change the fences again, bet on that.
            And only because it's cheaper to move the fences in and out than it is to make whole changes to a team when you're broke.


            When's the last time a team actually moved the fences back? I guess the Phillies after the first year at CBP when it was an absolute joke. And it still pretty much is.

            People only clamor to move the fences in, not out. They just want to see their home runs. Period. There'd be enormous pressure against moving the fences back.

            And I really do think the changes in LF are too much. Moving the fences in 13' AND lowering the wall by half really is a dramatic change. I wouldn't call it neutral. At least make it 375' to LC.

            If they just originally made it a nice 382' or so to LC with an 8 or 9' wall none of this would have happened. They overdid it.

            I really have no problem with what they did in RF and RC, though. I think those changes are fair.
            My comment about moving the fences "in and out" was meant as tongue-in-cheek and not intended to be taken literally.
            The inference being that there are bigger issues with this team than the placement of the fences —
            although I will give you that ill-placed ones don't help the situation.

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            • From the Mets twitter...





              Outside Citi Field...

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              • Originally posted by Blue387 View Post
                Not shown: Jeff Wilpon building the fence by hand. That explains the slowness.
                doubt that jeff-ie would know how to handle a hammer or shovel...
                the turd in the punchbowl
                reality really sucks.
                enjoy the game more...

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                • Originally posted by RayNY View Post
                  If that pic is recent then they seem to be moving at a lethargic pace.

                  Btw R.I.P. Gary Carter
                  The project manager said it. He's waiting for the fence panels to be fabricated. That's driving the schedule, so the framing we see can take it's time. Foundations are in, so weather sensitve work is completed. Panels will problably take a week to install when they arrive. Even quicker if they work around the clock - if they're late.

                  Looks like the complete deck was fabricated and on site.

                  RIP Gary indeed. Never thought (before he was diagnosed) that he'd be the first of that team to go.

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                  • Platform coming along.

















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                    Last edited by alpineinc; 02-21-2012, 05:05 PM.
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                    • It'll definitely look weird but whatever. I'm still more for it than against it. And it is what it is. Haha that should be the Mets new motto... "The New York Mets. It is what it is."

                      Btw once they wall up that new section it looks like the perfect shelter for stray cats, squirrels, raccoons, etc. to raise a family.
                      STOP ABUSING COFFEE

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                      • Also I wonder why they used scaffolding to hold up the new section, rather than steel beams and a concrete wall. I wonder if it's because they're not sure if the new dimension will be permanent depending on how things play out in the future? But if it is going to stay like that, it will be held up by scaffolding for the rest of the stadium's life?
                        STOP ABUSING COFFEE

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                        • Great shots, alpineinc...
                          I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product in April..
                          "We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium, and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium, and continue to pass them on from generation to generation." Derek Jeter: September 21, 2008.

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                          • Originally posted by RayNY View Post
                            Also I wonder why they used scaffolding to hold up the new section, rather than steel beams and a concrete wall. I wonder if it's because they're not sure if the new dimension will be permanent depending on how things play out in the future? But if it is going to stay like that, it will be held up by scaffolding for the rest of the stadium's life?
                            That "scaffolding", if you want to call it that is just fine. It's thick, tubular galvanized steel bolted to a solid concrete foundation. It's a perfect choice: Strong enough to last 100+ years, yet relatively easy to unhook and move or remove if need be.
                            I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game.
                            - Walt Whitman

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                            • Originally posted by jnakamura View Post
                              That "scaffolding", if you want to call it that is just fine...
                              What else would you call it? It looks like scaffolding to me. Just sayin'.
                              STOP ABUSING COFFEE

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                              • Originally posted by RayNY View Post
                                What else would you call it? It looks like scaffolding to me. Just sayin'.
                                1. Scaffold tubing is only 48mm in diameter.
                                2. Scaffolding is a temporary structure.
                                3. Scaffolding is used to support people and materials in the construction or repair of buildings.

                                Neither of these 3 apply to what is being constructed. Those steel supports are 3 times thicker in diameter than scaffold tubing.

                                Suppose the steel supports were square, instead of round, and painted black....what difference would it make? It's all going to be covered up anyway.
                                I see great things in baseball. It's our game - the American game.
                                - Walt Whitman

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