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  • Originally posted by scooterfan View Post
    Check out the March 14th Bob Raissman column. He's the top sports tv critic in the city. He reported the Kaat scoop.

    Sterling's great. In a couple years he will pass Mel Allen for second on the all time list of innings called by a Yankee broadcaster. The Scooter is #1, followed by Mel, then Sterling, Messer, White, Murcer, Kay, and the rest.
    I'm sorry, but "league sources" and "MLB insiders" is a weasely way of writing about anything you want, without having to be accountable. It very well might be true, but for the time being it's only speculation.

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    • If it were only speculation YES would have issued a condemnation of the Raissman column and no such missive was issued. Stone cold silence. The Yankees should be embarrassed. Kaat would be great for 50 games, he's certainly better than Singleton and Flaherty. Raissman calls these guys the bland brothers and he's right.

      The only time Singleton shows any animation is when he's talking about his beloved Orioles. Wahmbulance, you talk to me like I'm a 100 years old. I'm probably younger than you. Someone 30 can still appreciate history and tradition. I'm not sure if you were ever around during the WPIX days, but the broadcast trio of White, Rizzuto, and Messer was the best of all time and these three gentelman should be enshrined in the broadcast wing of the hall of fame together. From 1971-1985 these three guys called just about every inning of every Yankee game. I've heard tapes of Yankee broadcasts from way back and the Scooter was a great play by play guy. Up until 1978 when Fran Healy joined the radio booth the Yankee radio guy did the play by play alone for either half the game or 3 innings and Scooter was great, and well trained by mel allen. Obviously mel didn't train scooter to be the funny man he became but that was scooter's lovable personality.

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      • Originally posted by cgcoyne2 View Post
        One other thing from me. I don't like how cheesy they went with on the frieze. But I will say this. It is cool sitting in the upper deck looking out from beneath the roof and the frieze. I was there Saturday and it was real sweet. I froze my butt off up there but it was very neat.

        Photo from Foxyvixen. Cut down version.
        I'm not sure why you use the word "cheesy" because it certainly doesn't apply to the new frieze. If anything it's understated with its lack of detail compared to the original.

        I'm not so sure....actually I'm convinced, that the old frieze would not work well or look good on this more modern interpretation of NYS, with its cleaner, less complicated lines. The original frieze was beautifully designed, but it would be the one to actually look "cheesy" and out of place on the new design.

        At first I disliked this frieze, but have come to love it and understand why they went with this design. I think that HOK did an incredible job. Now if only they fix the netting issue so the rest of the world can see how beautiful this stadium should look on TV.
        Last edited by Rob R; 04-08-2009, 01:03 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Rob R View Post
          I'm not sure why you use the word "cheesy" because it certainly doesn't apply to the new frieze. If anything it's understated with its lack of detail compared to the original.

          I'm not so sure....actually I'm convinced, that the old frieze would not work well or look good on this more modern interpretation of NYS, with its cleaner, less complicated lines. The original frieze was beautifully designed, but it would be the one to actually look "cheesy" and out of place on the new design.

          At first I disliked this frieze, but have come to love it and understand why they went with this design. I think that HOK did an incredible job. Now if only they fix the netting issue so the rest of the world can see how beautiful this stadium should look on TV.
          While the netting sucks...its not gonna stop any of us from watching. Well, not me atleast. I'm from Rhode Island and just ordered my subscription of MLB.TV Premium. If anyone is curious about it...its alot nicer than last year.

          and I agree, the frieze is fantastic.

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          • Originally posted by CoreyMac View Post
            While the netting sucks...its not gonna stop any of us from watching. Well, not me atleast. I'm from Rhode Island and just ordered my subscription of MLB.TV Premium. If anyone is curious about it...its alot nicer than last year.

            and I agree, the frieze is fantastic.
            Gotta love Rhode Island Yankees fans that live in enemy territory! I understand that there are a lot of Yanks fans up there. I've also heard that since Joe DiMaggio, that a good portion the Italian community in RI have been Yanks fan.

            As for the netting, yeah, I'll watch on TV when not at the game, but I know I'll never like it. And for those who don't go to NYS, it must be a disappointment to see half of the game through netting with dark seams, and a camera struggling to focus.

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            • Originally posted by Rob R View Post
              I'm not sure why you use the word "cheesy" because it certainly doesn't apply to the new frieze. If anything it's understated with its lack of detail compared to the original.

              ...

              This is what I meant. To each his own. It just looks like cut out sheets of metal.
              Jimmy Dugan: Because there's no crying in baseball. THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBALL! No crying! (Tom Hanks, "A League of Their Own" (1992)

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              • Originally posted by cgcoyne2 View Post
                This is what I meant. To each his own. It just looks like cut out sheets of metal.
                I'm not disagreeing you. The old frieze at OYS was breathtaking, and the architecture in those days seemed to pay more attention to the little details, but given the more modern designs of today, it would look out of place on top of NYS. I think that this is where HOK shines, incorporating the old with a modern interpretation of OYS.

                That said, I prefer OYS to NYS, but NYS is leaps and bounds nicer than RYS. Since we will never see the likes of OYS again, this was an excellent compromise, PLUS we get better sighthlines, better comfort and better amenities than any Yankee Stadium ever had.

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                • Originally posted by Rob R View Post
                  ...PLUS we get better sighthlines, better comfort and better amenities than any Yankee Stadium ever had.
                  ...like...
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                  • Originally posted by monkeypants View Post
                    ...like...
                    That's unforgivable but relatively minor. They've made amends and lowered the price to $5 - a steal, considering that you can hang at the bleacher concourse or roam around the entire stadium.

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                    • Originally posted by Yankees12 View Post
                      http://www.flickr.com/photos/gioan/3419168036/sizes/o/

                      Take a look at this panorama from the photostream that SparkyL just posted.

                      This is a view from the press box, and the netting is indeed blocking most of the infield, meaning if they were to use the press box camera, and the netting were not lowered, ground balls would still be affected.

                      Personally, I'm hoping they lower the netting by 10-15 feet, and have the overhead wires attach to the bottom of the windows of the press box, instead of the railing in front of the suites. This way, a press box camera wouldn't be affected by overhead wires on any shots, and wouldn't be affected by the netting on groundballs, while that small a reduction from the top of the netting wouldn't sacrifice too much protection of those behind the netting (how many fast foul balls will hit the very top of that net anyway - they're far more likely to hit a bit lower).

                      Hopefully they're working on this right now, but even if they aren't, this really shouldn't take too long to fix. If they order new netting completely, that really doesn't take long to install after it's delivered (hell, Fenway just installed new netting a few days ago and was supposed to host a game on Monday). If they decide to modify the existing netting, putting the new hooks for the overhead wires, taking the netting down, cutting the excess netting, and reattaching it should be able to be done within the span of a road trip. There's really no excuse for this to still be up by May 15th (the start of the 3rd homestand of the year), which gives the Yankees a month and a half to think of a solution and enact that solution.
                      To get home plate out behind the net from a press box camera location, they would have to lower the net by half which would make a net roof a requirement.

                      The big question is, with the net that low would the people in the back of the Delta suite be watching the game through the roof net, almost edge on? Not to mention that for those people in the back, the net roof would be inches over their heads.

                      This is not an easy problem to solve.
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                      • Originally posted by scooterfan View Post
                        If it were only speculation YES would have issued a condemnation of the Raissman column and no such missive was issued. Stone cold silence. The Yankees should be embarrassed. Kaat would be great for 50 games, he's certainly better than Singleton and Flaherty. Raissman calls these guys the bland brothers and he's right.

                        The only time Singleton shows any animation is when he's talking about his beloved Orioles. Wahmbulance, you talk to me like I'm a 100 years old. I'm probably younger than you. Someone 30 can still appreciate history and tradition. I'm not sure if you were ever around during the WPIX days, but the broadcast trio of White, Rizzuto, and Messer was the best of all time and these three gentelman should be enshrined in the broadcast wing of the hall of fame together. From 1971-1985 these three guys called just about every inning of every Yankee game. I've heard tapes of Yankee broadcasts from way back and the Scooter was a great play by play guy. Up until 1978 when Fran Healy joined the radio booth the Yankee radio guy did the play by play alone for either half the game or 3 innings and Scooter was great, and well trained by mel allen. Obviously mel didn't train scooter to be the funny man he became but that was scooter's lovable personality.
                        I have to agree Scooterfan; White, Rizzuto, & Messer where the best, 3 guys doing the TV and radio side, I miss that a lot.

                        As for the new stadium; I posted my feelings on the new stadium after I attended Saturday's game. I was one who was all for the new stadium but now I really wish they renovated RYS instead. Maybe they could have hired an architectural firm that specialized in historical renovations. If they could have put up a new roof with the frieze & restored the outer façade that would have been good enough for me.

                        If they had to play in Shea a few years so what; I don’t need all the bars, the great hall, the stores, the restaurants, and all the bling. Do we really need an art gallery, the Hard Rock, & sushi stands at Yankee stadium? It's like they said they put a baseball field in the middle of a 5 star hotel / Paramus Park, and to me at least that’s not what baseball should be.

                        That said I'm sorry to bring up something that's been talked to death. I'm a life long Yankee fan, I've got my 11 game plan and will go to the games; I just really wish they could have gone in a different direction.

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                        • Originally posted by Gary Dunaier View Post
                          Oh. My. God.

                          You are so correct.

                          I'd have waited until there was nobody there.

                          Propriety aside, what the guy expect, slaves to hold a palm fan over your head and hold it for you while you did your business?

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                          • Originally posted by SparkyL View Post
                            To get home plate out behind the net from a press box camera location, they would have to lower the net by half which would make a net roof a requirement.

                            The big question is, with the net that low would the people in the back of the Delta suite be watching the game through the roof net, almost edge on? Not to mention that for those people in the back, the net roof would be inches over their heads.

                            This is not an easy problem to solve.
                            That plan is what they should do! and if they dont want to do that. how about putting the tv cameras up in the box seats. They can lower the net, and have 3 camera levels. The delta sky club, press box, and the box seats.
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                            "Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." - Benjamin Franklin

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                            • Way OT, but this was too good not to post. Video of the Joba Chamberlain DUI arrest. Pretty funny....
                              http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...6091joba1.html

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                              • here's the full video
                                http://carlosechevarria.blogspot.com...dui-video.html

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