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    Hello all,

    This is something that should have been done months ago, and while I will be the first to admit that nothing has shocked me into realization like seeing the picture just posted in the demolition thread (not even seeing the new place across the street in November did it), there is no better time than the present to try and do at least something for the most historic baseball venue out there.

    Chastise me if you must (and I'm sure some of you will), but you can't fault a man for trying.

    So please, any of you that have posted things in the demo thread, post them again here, let's get something start, petitions, contacts and organizations (i.e. Save Our Parks). Any help from former and current players and people on the Yankee staff or even just citizens of New York and the Bronx would be as helpful as possible. Sportswriters, celebrities, etc.

    Let's contact as many as we can so that something can be saved. There have been some GREAT ideas put forth so far, but if they just stay ideas on this thread then the Stadium doesn't stand a chance.

    So who's with me? Can we get something going?


    Richard

  • #2
    Originally posted by RichardLillard1 View Post
    Hello all,

    This is something that should have been done months ago, and while I will be the first to admit that nothing has shocked me into realization like seeing the picture just posted in the demolition thread (not even seeing the new place across the street in November did it), there is no better time than the present to try and do at least something for the most historic baseball venue out there.

    Chastise me if you must (and I'm sure some of you will), but you can't fault a man for trying.

    So please, any of you that have posted things in the demo thread, post them again here, let's get something start, petitions, contacts and organizations (i.e. Save Our Parks). Any help from former and current players and people on the Yankee staff or even just citizens of New York and the Bronx would be as helpful as possible. Sportswriters, celebrities, etc.

    Let's contact as many as we can so that something can be saved. There have been some GREAT ideas put forth so far, but if they just stay ideas on this thread then the Stadium doesn't stand a chance.

    So who's with me? Can we get something going?


    Richard
    Very Good Richard! This idea of remembering Yankee Stadium should never be on a thread of it's demise. What were we all thinking?

    My idea, probably 1 of 10,000 was inspired by "Pinstripes" on the demolition thread. He spoke of actually enclosing the remainder of the stadium portion of YS. The following is what I had to say on that.


    I love the "enclosed aspect" of what you describe? I've never considered that. I've always thought they could leave that small section of the BP and a field where the players once played . . .and actualy invent a technology (which might be already invented and I don't know about it) whereas like a museum, folks could come and rent/lease this little IPod looking thing that would show telecasts of famous plays made at the park . . . and walk around and ponder . . . of the things that occured where they stand, watchin a live rebroadcast in the palm of their hand. Lotta stuff to figure out . . .like why someone wouldn't just walk off with this technology when they are through . . . deposit . .something . .. cc # . . .I don't know, unimportant. But it would establish and reestabllish the history of the sacred grounds for generations to come.

    ps: some money could be made from this . . . even if it's small change . . .small change adds up. And it would still be . . .tah dah . . A park.

    I'm tellin' ya . . . something like this might work with the powers that be. I don't personally care to make one red cent off it, but would love to see the history of a beautiful (even though my one time experience, was't great, lol) park be preserved.

    Digger
    Last edited by DiggerODell; 04-02-2009, 11:47 PM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by RichardLillard1 View Post
      Hello all,

      This is something that should have been done months ago, and while I will be the first to admit that nothing has shocked me into realization like seeing the picture just posted in the demolition thread (not even seeing the new place across the street in November did it), there is no better time than the present to try and do at least something for the most historic baseball venue out there.

      Chastise me if you must (and I'm sure some of you will), but you can't fault a man for trying.

      So please, any of you that have posted things in the demo thread, post them again here, let's get something start, petitions, contacts and organizations (i.e. Save Our Parks). Any help from former and current players and people on the Yankee staff or even just citizens of New York and the Bronx would be as helpful as possible. Sportswriters, celebrities, etc.

      Let's contact as many as we can so that something can be saved. There have been some GREAT ideas put forth so far, but if they just stay ideas on this thread then the Stadium doesn't stand a chance.

      So who's with me? Can we get something going?


      Richard
      Hi Richard,
      There was a thread like this last summer, with alot of posts, pro and con.
      As I have said, Polititians have been written to, conservation socities as well. BUT former sen clinton, and sen schumer did not return my email, where I reminded him that destroying this entire structure would not only be a bad mistake, and something that will be regreted, but would be unamerican as well.
      I knew that when the day came that they started ripping into the place, THAT would be the day that shock/reality would set in.

      That day is here.

      The question is, WHO to bring the ideas to?(sparkeys in the demolition thread is a great idea) and what kind of time frame is available.
      I honestly think that the real demolition will start right after they rip out the seats, so that means one month, maybe a little more or a little less
      The thing to keep in mind here is that
      A. The yankees want the stadium gone ASAP
      B. the polititians dont care

      The only hope of saving any of this stadium is thru the media,since it is, and always will be, the media that drives the polititians. You cant go to the Yankee media alone( that would be like going thru radio havana to complain about Castro).
      If we all got together, called and flooded schumer (again) and hold him PERSONALY responible (he is the senior NY senetor, correct?) and flooded the daily news, the post, espn, and yes, the yankee offices, then MAYBE there might be a chance to save some of the historic sections of yankee stadium.
      the city has never addressed why the original walls of Yankee Stadium should not be landmarked. They have stated that the 'entire structure has been changed to the point where it lost landmark status'...ok, fine, what about the original sections of the stadium....where have they changed?
      Why is it that a 1970s apartment up the street HAS landmark status, while Yankee Stadium does not?
      You see, the city has never answered these questions, no one in the media will ask them
      In my opinion, these questions need to be asked, and answered. That and sparkeys diagram where most of the exterior wall was preserved needs to be presented as well.
      If not acted on quickly, and in force, then the entire place is doomed
      I think Mike Lupica needs to be contacted about these unanswered questions,and sparkeys plans need to be shown to him as well.(if my memory serves me, Lupica thinks the stadium should have been renovated)
      Other NY writers need to be called as well
      If I can help, let me know.

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      • #4
        Keith Olbermann (whether you like him or not... my opinion will be kept to myself) is a Yankee fan and has been going to the Stadium, in the same seats, since the renovation. His mother was even hit with a baseball bat that broke.

        Maybe someone can get a hold of him to make an effort.

        I'll do as much as I can tomorrow afternoon, it's late here and I'm heading to bed.


        Richard

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        • #5
          Originally posted by shaneslatts View Post
          Hi Richard,
          There was a thread like this last summer, with alot of posts, pro and con.
          As I have said, Polititians have been written to, conservation socities as well. BUT former sen clinton, and sen schumer did not return my email, where I reminded him that destroying this entire structure would not only be a bad mistake, and something that will be regreted, but would be unamerican as well.
          I knew that when the day came that they started ripping into the place, THAT would be the day that shock/reality would set in.

          That day is here.

          The question is, WHO to bring the ideas to?(sparkeys in the demolition thread is a great idea) and what kind of time frame is available.
          I honestly think that the real demolition will start right after they rip out the seats, so that means one month, maybe a little more or a little less
          The thing to keep in mind here is that
          A. The yankees want the stadium gone ASAP
          B. the polititians dont care

          The only hope of saving any of this stadium is thru the media,since it is, and always will be, the media that drives the polititians. You cant go to the Yankee media alone( that would be like going thru radio havana to complain about Castro).
          If we all got together, called and flooded schumer (again) and hold him PERSONALY responible (he is the senior NY senetor, correct?) and flooded the daily news, the post, espn, and yes, the yankee offices, then MAYBE there might be a chance to save some of the historic sections of yankee stadium.
          the city has never addressed why the original walls of Yankee Stadium should not be landmarked. They have stated that the 'entire structure has been changed to the point where it lost landmark status'...ok, fine, what about the original sections of the stadium....where have they changed?
          Why is it that a 1970s apartment up the street HAS landmark status, while Yankee Stadium does not?
          You see, the city has never answered these questions, no one in the media will ask them
          In my opinion, these questions need to be asked, and answered. That and sparkeys diagram where most of the exterior wall was preserved needs to be presented as well.
          If not acted on quickly, and in force, then the entire place is doomed
          I think Mike Lupica needs to be contacted about these unanswered questions,and sparkeys plans need to be shown to him as well.(if my memory serves me, Lupica thinks the stadium should have been renovated)
          Other NY writers need to be called as well
          If I can help, let me know.


          I do remember that thread, but it disappeared to the cracks. I wish I had done more then, but I guess I was waiting for something to come to me. A huge mistake to be sure.

          The fact is, I want to do something now and I'm prepared to do as much as I can.

          PM or email me with phone numbers, email addresses, and the like to try and get something done and I will do all I can from my end.


          Richard

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          • #6
            Originally posted by RichardLillard1 View Post
            His mother was even hit with a baseball bat that broke.
            I'm pretty sure she was hit with an errant Chuck Knoblauch throw that went into the stands.
            New York Yankees
            New York Rangers
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            • #7
              Originally posted by RichardLillard1 View Post
              I do remember that thread, but it disappeared to the cracks. I wish I had done more then, but I guess I was waiting for something to come to me. A huge mistake to be sure.

              The fact is, I want to do something now and I'm prepared to do as much as I can.

              PM or email me with phone numbers, email addresses, and the like to try and get something done and I will do all I can from my end.


              Richard
              I will be calling the daily news, the post, the local TV stations as well. I have contacted a writer friend of mine who has contacts in the yankees as well.
              We need to start somewhere and we need media help..Any media out there? HELP)
              The WAR starts today

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RichardLillard1 View Post
                I do remember that thread, but it disappeared to the cracks. I wish I had done more then, but I guess I was waiting for something to come to me. A huge mistake to be sure.

                The fact is, I want to do something now and I'm prepared to do as much as I can.

                PM or email me with phone numbers, email addresses, and the like to try and get something done and I will do all I can from my end.


                Richard

                Hey everyone. Here is one place to start http://schumer.senate.gov/
                Good old chuck schumer. The senior senetor from NY should be held accountable for this. I do not have the phone numbers for the daily news, post and the local stations YET, but I will be surfing the net and finding them.
                Again, today is the time to start
                The WAR has begun!

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                • #9
                  Here is a letter I just fired off to Chuck Schumer

                  Dear Sen Schumer,
                  There are many basball fans over at baseballfever .com
                  We, as a group are concerned with the destruction of a NY landmark, Yankee Stadium.
                  If you get a chance, could you take alook at some of the ideas that we have come up with to preserve parts of the historic 1923 sections of old Yankee Stadium
                  We, as a group, will be contacting the media today.
                  We, as a group, are asking for your support in our efforts to preserve part of this historic old ballbark, The House that Ruth Built, Yankee Stadium
                  thank You,
                  Mark Slattery

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                  • #10
                    In the demolition thread, there was conversation about saving the gate 2 wall and field.

                    You know, its not unprecedented.

                    http://www.leaguepark.org/current.html

                    They did pretty much just that in Cleveland with League Park.


                    Vintage Photos of Detroit Ballparks:
                    http://www.flickr.com/photos/doctor_gogol/sets/

                    http://www.flickr.com/photos/46267068@N04/sets/

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                    • #11
                      Hello all,

                      I don't have much time right now, but I just wanted to say that I love the pictures from League Park, it really shows that we're capable of something like this! Keep in mind though that the League Park wall is smaller, so we need a plan to preserve something much larger. Perhaps a small building, even a restaurant, museum, or even small office of some kind that would be dedicated to Bronx history and Yankee History.

                      I think in any and all letters we fire off to anyone, we also need to make mention of the amount of the structure that remains from the original construction and how structurally sound it still is. The common opinion that everyone has of Yankee Stadium is that it's rotting away, we need to reverse that and educate everyone!

                      Above all though, if this is to get any consideration, we need to stress that the Bronx will still get its parkland back as much as we can. This should almost be over-emphasized as anyone who is going to debate this with us will use that as their main rebuttal point.

                      If they are concerned about trees and having them replaced in one of the worst asthmatic regions in the country, then perhaps someone could draw something up that would show just how many trees (approximately) would and could be put in to mark the original structure's outline.

                      Maybe we could also work on illustrating several different proposals to show just what the different options are, but keep in mind that with EVERY proposal, we need to focus on the parkland around the Stadiums as well as Yankee Stadium itself.

                      Too many people are upset about losing parkland and trees that we need a plan that puts all of that to rest.


                      Richard

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                      • #12
                        Dear Friends,

                        I've always believed in advertising. I think great numbers of people will be reached through the various media. Even something as simple as a Letter To The Editor. These will be read by millions of people.

                        How about putting a story on youtube. Everyone sees that great site. Tell what we want and have drawings included of ideas.

                        The same for other well-known sites.

                        Many great ideas were on "To Save Yankee Stadium," on Baseball Fever.

                        To save a reasonable part of Yankee Stadium would not take up much park space. I still think that with all the history that Yankee Stadium has given us, it absolutely deserves to have a part left behind for us to visit.

                        I wish Disney or another company would be involved. Audio-animatronic figures of Babe, Lou, Joe, Mickey, and many others could tell us about the teams they played on, the history of Yankee Stadium, etc. The possibilities are endless. It would also be a moneymaker. As we all know, sadly, the almighty buck is the bottom line. Besides these talking figures, a museum in the saved portion of Yankee Stadium would be on display.

                        Assuming the Yankees draw about 4 million people this year, hundreds of thousands of people would easily visit such an experience as this. Local people would also have some more jobs in the area.

                        The Baseball Hall of Fame, as I understand it, has a lot of memorabilia that cannot be displayed due to limited space (if I'm wrong, please correct me).
                        What better place than this shrine to display some of these priceless treasures. At, say, $10. per person for admission, this would be a nice income. Plus income from souvenirs. Instead of having a restaurant in the museum, visitors could go to the local restaurants. This would certainly be most welcome, I would think, by such establishments in the off-season.

                        Anything is possible, as long as people keep an open mind and are reasonable.
                        This could all be done, and the people living in the area would still have parks
                        and recreational areas.

                        Once it's gone, it's gone. That would be very sad and very wrong for all that The House That Ruth gave us.

                        Sincerely,
                        Mike Wagner

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                        • #13
                          It's called constructive reuse, NYC, let's start using it. Look at Boston, for example:

                          Braves field, home of the Braves,


                          After the Braves left for Milwaukee, some of the stadium was demolished but the rest was reused:


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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by RichardLillard1 View Post

                            I think in any and all letters we fire off to anyone, we also need to make mention of the amount of the structure that remains from the original construction and how structurally sound it still is. The common opinion that everyone has of Yankee Stadium is that it's rotting away, we need to reverse that and educate everyone!



                            Richard
                            I'd venture to guess the old girl is structurally stronger even than what just opened to the public next door! And she'll be a b$%@tch to dismantle.

                            All the more reason some of OYS can and should be incorporated into the park restoration plan for the space.

                            Outlining the grandstand with hundreds of trees simply does not convey the enormity and significance of what was demolished there, unless you fly over it in a plane or have access to view it from the roof of the BxCo Courthouse. From terra firma, it will look like little more than a small Central Park with three baseball diamonds all facing each other surrounded by trees. No context as to what stood there the previous 85 years.

                            What kind of remembrance is that???
                            NYC's politicians and media need look no further than right here, Baseball Fever, to get a taste of the sentiment surrounding the preservation of Old YS. Once they've been here, they'll realize rocket science is not required to do what needs to be done.
                            Last edited by NYFan1stYankFan2nd; 04-03-2009, 07:39 PM.
                            RYS to NYS: "Obi-Lonn never told you what happened to your father."

                            NYS: "He told me enough. He told me you killed him - in the 1970s!!"

                            RYS: "No, I am your father..."

                            NYS: "No, it's not true, that's impossible!!!!"

                            RYS: "Look beyond my respirator pods and my upper crown; you know it to be true!

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                            • #15
                              I would love to see part of the old stadium remain... I like the idea that was proposed on another thread of having the gate be the gateway of the park, or something like that...

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