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  • It doesn't matter if your friend is Charles Comiskey himself. It still doesn't make it a fact that the new park is a bad place. Or a good place for that matter. Some people like it. Some don't. This is a forum to discuss just that. Maybe your friend should post on this board and provide his opinion with some rationale behind it. It might be interesting and add something to the discussion.

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    • Originally posted by POLO GROUNDS 1957 View Post
      My friend lives in chicago and works for a local chicago newspaper so i will take his word any day since he had to go down to old comiskey park to cover games there.and he also has reports that normal baseball fans did not see that say that old comiskey park was not falling apart and could have lasted for more years.and again he has heard from alot of people saying that they dislike the current stadium.
      Well, you also called me a liar for my thoughts on the Boston Garden, where I'd sat on broken seats and used lightless bathrooms, so clearly opinions can vary.

      Also, once again, any structure can last for more years. The Colosseum is doing fine after over a thousand. The Garden could've stood for another hundred, but not without at least $100m in cleanup.

      A lot of people dislike the new stadium, and a lot of people disliked the old one. I don't even know why it matters how many people like the old park or the new park, since the only thing that should matter is how much you like it. The Cell is an excellent place to watch baseball, which you, by your own admission, have never done. I'd take it over nearly all of the retro-themed crapitecture that's come out since.
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      • Financially, continuing to play in Comiskey Park would have been suicide for the Sox. Same with Ebetts Field, and the Polo Grounds. And Shea, and The Vet, and Old Busch Stadium, etc, etc, etc.

        While their might not have been much wrong with the structure, it could have been renovated, and continued to host ballgames, the financial market of the times doomed these parks to the wrecking ball as much as anything else.

        That's great you have a buddy who is a writer. So do I..... he11, I was one myself, but you don't see me shoving his opinion down everyone's throat do you?

        I could absolutely care less what ONE other person's opinion is. He has VERY little extra information. Press releases are readily available to everyone if you look for them. Media guides can be purchased, etc. If you value what the players have to say THAT much (the only thing he has access to that you and I do not have the same access) then you have never interviewed a professional athlete. The most cliched group of people on the planet, more so than politicians, imo. Bottom line is, you cannot form your opinion based off what ballplayers say, they are so tuned out it's ridiculous.

        And YES, I have talked to many of them, both current players, old timers, and players in between.
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        • Originally posted by soxnut67 View Post
          Do you mean Angels stadium post renovations?
          You know, I don't know when they did the "renovations" to "Angels" Stadium... I was there for a ballgame against the Athletics back in August of 1999... so there you go... that place was pretty lame- no personality whatsoever.

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          • Originally posted by satchel29 View Post
            You know, I don't know when they did the "renovations" to "Angels" Stadium... I was there for a ballgame against the Athletics back in August of 1999... so there you go... that place was pretty lame- no personality whatsoever.

            What would it have needed to have "personality"?

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            • Right.

              Here's the final official word on "the Cell."

              Comiskey II sucked at first because it didn't have any fan friendly elements. Then I realized there were apartment buildings across from the Dan Ryan Expressway that you could see from within the ballpark, and there was that other building just outside the scoreboard. So the place became cool.

              That's the definitive answer.

              My credentials: I have never been to Chicago but I downloaded lots of pictures of Wrigley Field and I have an audio cassette of the first Mets game from 1962.

              So there.

              Furthermore... :grouchy: :atthepc

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              Now... let's get back to some legitimate discussion, please. If you please.

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              • Originally posted by Gary Dunaier View Post
                Right.

                Here's the final official word on "the Cell."

                Comiskey II sucked at first because it didn't have any fan friendly elements. Then I realized there were apartment buildings across from the Dan Ryan Expressway that you could see from within the ballpark, and there was that other building just outside the scoreboard. So the place became cool.

                That's the definitive answer.

                My credentials: I have never been to Chicago but I downloaded lots of pictures of Wrigley Field and I have an audio cassette of the first Mets game from 1962.

                So there.

                Furthermore... :grouchy: :atthepc

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                Now... let's get back to some legitimate discussion, please. If you please.

                Okay everyone lets get back on topic here. i say that the white sox ballpark rates as one of the worst ballparks along side comerica park in detroit.so now we are back on topic.:applaud:
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                • Originally posted by soxnut67 View Post
                  What would it have needed to have "personality"?
                  Personality goes a long way.

                  So by that rationale, if Angels Stadium had a better personality, it would cease to be a bad ballpark. Is that true?


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                  • Well, we'd have to be talking about one charming muthaf***ing ballpark. It would have to be 10 times more charming than that ballpark in "Green Cathedrals."
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                    • Originally posted by POLO GROUNDS 1957 View Post
                      Okay everyone lets get back on topic here. i say that the white sox ballpark rates as one of the worst ballparks along side comerica park in detroit.so now we are back on topic.:applaud:
                      And I say they don't, especially The Cell after renovations.

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                      • Originally posted by soxnut67 View Post
                        And I say they don't, especially The Cell after renovations.
                        I haven't been to New Comiskey since 1991, however after seeing everyone's pictures of the park post-renovations I think it looks nice.

                        Have they done anything to improve the neighborhood by New Comiskey? Back in the early 90's it was pretty ghetto.

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                        • Originally posted by Lafferty Daniel View Post
                          I haven't been to New Comiskey since 1991, however after seeing everyone's pictures of the park post-renovations I think it looks nice.

                          Have they done anything to improve the neighborhood by New Comiskey? Back in the early 90's it was pretty ghetto.
                          A friend and I (neither of us exactly bodybuilder types) walked from the Cell down about 4 blocks to the Green Line and didn't feel any qualms about it. Once the tenements were torn down the area improved a good deal. It's not the most interesting neighborhood in the city, but it's functional, and safer than most of the south side.
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                          • Originally posted by soxnut67 View Post
                            And I say they don't, especially The Cell after renovations.
                            One thing here again is the fact that everyone here including you has the right to a opinion even if its wrong you do have the right.
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                            • Originally posted by POLO GROUNDS 1957 View Post
                              One thing here again is the fact that everyone here including you has the right to a opinion even if its wrong you do have the right.
                              You have to admit it though, New Comiskey at least looks nicer with the renovations.

                              It's never going to look as cool as the original Comiskey however.

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                              • Originally posted by POLO GROUNDS 1957 View Post
                                One thing here again is the fact that everyone here including you has the right to a opinion even if its wrong you do have the right.

                                An opinion is not wrong.

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