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  • Originally posted by finch5682 View Post
    Ralf. Just wondering why? and what other stadiums have you been to?
    I've been to CBP, PNC, Fenway, Shea, and Yankee Stadium. My Yankee Stadium experiences were by far the worst. The concourses were narrow and crowded. The people at the game were acting like idiots. I got vertigo just walking up the stairs and overall I thought the place was a bit of a dump.

    The question was, "worst parks you've seen a game in" and that was an easy answer for me.

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    • Okay, first off: don't call people brainwashed for loving Yankee Stadium.

      There is a lot to be loved at the OYS, and many have grown up with it as the only stadium they have been to. Just like any ballpark, a love for it grows on people for various reasn. It's not something your told to do, but just something that grows over time.

      I love YS, because it is beautiful to ME. Not because someone brainwashed me to believe so. ESPN raving about the aura of Yankee Stadium is something most YS lovers couldn't give a crap about. It's just our home, and we love it because of that.

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      • Shea Stadium by a mile. It's a dump within a dump that sits on a dump.

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        • Originally posted by Rob R View Post
          Shea Stadium by a mile. It's a dump within a dump that sits on a dump.
          Shea is awful, and I never been there.
          http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Q_Zerpnj63I/Sa...flbot-qUQb.jpg

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          • MONTREAL FOR SURE ABOUT 5000 PEOPLE THERE

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            • Originally posted by Yankees2k6 View Post
              Shea is awful, and I never been there.
              You're not missing anything. It's cheesy, tacky (kinda like the Met's 47 uniform combos), dumpy, sits on swamp land in the middle of nowhere, the outfield view is a parking lot and planes seem to take off or land every few seconds from LaGuardia. In short, it's falling apart and not a pleasant experience in the least. Also, the surrounding neighborhood is filled with seedy chop shops.

              Unless they do something within the neighborhood, as much as an improvement as Citi is over Shea, CitiField will suffer from many of the same maladies.

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              • I can appreciate most people not liking Shea and thus trashing it. Its one of the oldest ballparks in the league (behind Wrigley, Fenway, and Dodger Stadium - Yankee Stadium was built in 1975 as far as I'm concerned) and its completely utilitarian.

                I for one like Shea. I like the railings that people complain about; they're great to lean your arms on. I like the exterior "blurple" with neon lights. I like that you can take the LIRR or the 7 train to the game. I like most of the sight lines. I like the ambiance. I like the history. And most of all, I like that fact that there aren't a bunch of poser corporate types or poser bandwagon fans that cheapen the whole feel of the team and stadium. I'm going to miss the ole girl when she is gone. That said, bring on Citi Field and the creature comforts we've lived without forever. Its also going to be great, once the neighborhood is rehabilitated, to be the only sports franchise (save the Rangers) that you don't need a flack jacket to go out to a bar around before and after the game.
                Last edited by Ralf; 07-07-2008, 02:37 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Ralf View Post
                  I can appreciate most people not liking Shea and thus trashing it. Its one of the oldest ballparks in the league (behind Wrigley, Fenway, and Dodger Stadium - Yankee Stadium was built in 1975 as far as I'm concerned) and its completely utilitarian.

                  I for one like Shea. I like the railings that people complain about; they're great to lean your arms on. I like the exterior "blurple" with neon lights. I like that you can take the LIRR or the 7 train to the game. I like most of the sight lines. I like the ambiance. I like the history. And most of all, I like that fact that there aren't a bunch of poser corporate types or poser bandwagon fans that cheapen the whole feel of the team and stadium. I'm going to miss the ole girl when she is gone. That said, bring on Citi Field and the creature comforts we've lived without forever.
                  I hear ya, regarding the sentimentality that goes with it. That's something you can take away and will forever live in your mind. But, Shea was monstrosity that truly never had a prime (as a stadium) so I can't even say that it's well past it.

                  In it's place you'll be getting a word-class stadium and a new set of memories.

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                  • In all the discussion I cannot believe the HHH Metrodome hasn't been mentioned, so allow me.....

                    Having lived in Minneapolis for over 30 years, I never thought I'd ever have a worse baseball experience than the Metrodome a.k.a. the Plastic Palace of Noise. That was until about 10 years ago I found myself in Philly and decided to see a Phillies game at the Vet. Now granted the weather was subpar which probably lent a hand to there being a sparse crowd, however, I swear the people were out-numbered by the rats.

                    Getting back to the Metrodome. It is a horrible place to watch baseball as the Twins have been forced to play baseball in the corner of a football stadium for 28 years. And if your seats are located beyond first and third, you will need a chiropractor the following day to realign your neck. I cannot wait for the Twins to finally return outdoors, but even more so for them to return to a ballpark. Met Stadium was no jewel but it was extremely comfortable and had awesome sightlines for baseball.

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                    • Originally posted by Ralf View Post
                      I can appreciate most people not liking Shea and thus trashing it. Its one of the oldest ballparks in the league (behind Wrigley, Fenway, and Dodger Stadium - Yankee Stadium was built in 1975 as far as I'm concerned) and its completely utilitarian.

                      I for one like Shea. I like the railings that people complain about; they're great to lean your arms on. I like the exterior "blurple" with neon lights. I like that you can take the LIRR or the 7 train to the game. I like most of the sight lines. I like the ambiance. I like the history. And most of all, I like that fact that there aren't a bunch of poser corporate types or poser bandwagon fans that cheapen the whole feel of the team and stadium. I'm going to miss the ole girl when she is gone. That said, bring on Citi Field and the creature comforts we've lived without forever. Its also going to be great, once the neighborhood is rehabilitated, to be the only sports franchise (save the Rangers) that you don't need a flack jacket to go out to a bar around before and after the game.
                      Ralf,

                      1st of all, what is so nice about the color "blurple" or the tacky neon lights.
                      2nd: Yankee Stadium is accesable by the 4, B & D trains.
                      3rd: Shea's upper deck is higher & steeper than Yankee Stadium, not to mention YS' upper deck is closer to the field. I'm sure those sightlines look great thru a pair of binoculars.
                      4th: Ambiance, what ambiance, a Boeing 747 passing over every three minutes?
                      5th: History?? What history? If you ever want to compare a stadium to Yankee Stadium, one thing you do not bring up is history. They are incomparable. Just stay out of that subject.
                      6th: There is no guarantee that the neighborhood will be rehabilitated. Same goes for NYS, but i'd rather go to Stan's than to see 50 muffler shops and a parking lot.
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                      • [QUOTE=Transplanted Fan;1237453]The second attatched image is basically what they did to Jarry Park in Montreal.


                        It has since been remodeled, leaving only the section behind home plate from the original stadium



                        Last edited by flasah; 07-09-2008, 02:28 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by The House That Ruth Built View Post
                          Ralf,

                          1st of all, what is so nice about the color "blurple" or the tacky neon lights.
                          2nd: Yankee Stadium is accesable by the 4, B & D trains.
                          3rd: Shea's upper deck is higher & steeper than Yankee Stadium, not to mention YS' upper deck is closer to the field. I'm sure those sightlines look great thru a pair of binoculars.
                          4th: Ambiance, what ambiance, a Boeing 747 passing over every three minutes?
                          5th: History?? What history? If you ever want to compare a stadium to Yankee Stadium, one thing you do not bring up is history. They are incomparable. Just stay out of that subject.
                          6th: There is no guarantee that the neighborhood will be rehabilitated. Same goes for NYS, but i'd rather go to Stan's than to see 50 muffler shops and a parking lot.
                          Great post.

                          I'd like to add to the 2nd point: Starting next year Yankee Stadium will also be accessible through Metro North Railroad.

                          And about the 3rd point: I went to Yankee Stadium and Shea Stadium last month in back-to-back weeks. Both games I sat behind home plate approximately 10 rows from the top of the stadium. Yankee Stadium was pretty high, but not too bad. But I was shocked when I went to Shea. I was so high up that the players looked like ants. Not good for anybody who's afraid of heights.
                          Bats, they are sick. I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid. I ask Jobu to come, take fear from bats. I offer him cigar, and rum. He will come.

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                          • Originally posted by curb my enthusiasm View Post
                            Great post.

                            ... But I was shocked when I went to Shea. I was so high up that the players looked like ants. Not good for anybody who's afraid of heights.
                            They don't call it Big Shea for nothing. One of the few 4 full deck (5 if you count the press deck) stadiums ever built. Not only is the Upper Deck high, but it is set back far from the field. Don't forget, it was built to be a football stadium too. I always believed that YS had a steeper upper deck than Shea, but I found these diagrams on Andrewclem.com. I'm not sure if they are dimensionally to scale, but I put my old protractor against the slope of the upper decks, and sure enough, Shea is steeper!

                            Big Shea- not the best place to view a ballgame, but the worst place I was ever at was the old Comiskey Park. Yeah, the place had history and was a true relic that you can't duplicate with these new fangled retro parks. Great views of the field, but... the seats were made for midgets (were folks smaller back then, or did they just not care about creature comforts?), and there was this pipe that ran horizontally along the back of the row in front of me that cut into my knees the whole game. The place reeked of urine and stale beer. The bathrooms were incredible. I could live with the trough style urinal, but the toilets were out there in the open- no doors, no stalls! Yeah, they don't build 'em like they used too....
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                            Last edited by CHiller; 07-09-2008, 05:37 PM. Reason: added YS vs Shea picture
                            First Game- Twinight DH, Mets vs. Cards at Shea, August 22, 1965

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                            • Originally posted by Ralf View Post
                              I can appreciate most people not liking Shea and thus trashing it. Its one of the oldest ballparks in the league (behind Wrigley, Fenway, and Dodger Stadium - Yankee Stadium was built in 1975 as far as I'm concerned) and its completely utilitarian.

                              I for one like Shea. I like the railings that people complain about; they're great to lean your arms on. I like the exterior "blurple" with neon lights. I like that you can take the LIRR or the 7 train to the game. I like most of the sight lines. I like the ambiance. I like the history. And most of all, I like that fact that there aren't a bunch of poser corporate types or poser bandwagon fans that cheapen the whole feel of the team and stadium. I'm going to miss the ole girl when she is gone. That said, bring on Citi Field and the creature comforts we've lived without forever. Its also going to be great, once the neighborhood is rehabilitated, to be the only sports franchise (save the Rangers) that you don't need a flack jacket to go out to a bar around before and after the game.
                              I'm confused. The Knicks and Rangers both play in the garden so that's at two franchises. I'm a Met fan, but have been to quite a few games at YS and haven't felt the need to wear a flak vest while going to Stan's before or after the game. It's not 1978 anymore...no reason to continue this myth about the safety of the area around YS during games.

                              I suppose you're not counting the Jets or Giants, but then again, they play in Jersey and there really isn't much barwise around the Meadowlands.

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                              • Originally posted by CHiller View Post
                                They don't call it Big Shea for nothing. One of the few 4 full deck (5 if you count the press deck) stadiums ever built. Not only is the Upper Deck high, but it is set back far from the field. Don't forget, it was built to be a football stadium too. I always believed that YS had a steeper upper deck than Shea, but I found these diagrams on Andrewclem.com. I'm not sure if they are dimensionally to scale, but I put my old protractor against the slope of the upper decks, and sure enough, Shea is steeper!

                                Big Shea- not the best place to view a ballgame, but the worst place I was ever at was the old Comiskey Park. Yeah, the place had history and was a true relic that you can't duplicate with these new fangled retro parks. Great views of the field, but... the seats were made for midgets (were folks smaller back then, or did they just not care about creature comforts?), and there was this pipe that ran horizontally along the back of the row in front of me that cut into my knees the whole game. The place reeked of urine and stale beer. The bathrooms were incredible. I could live with the trough style urinal, but the toilets were out there in the open- no doors, no stalls! Yeah, they don't build 'em like they used too....
                                Wow, 30-35 degrees? I always believed Yankee & Shea's upper decks were both at least 40 degrees - just from having negotiated both decks.

                                I guess how we actually PERCEIVE steepness is a far call from how steep something actually is. A survey of roller-coaster riders was conducted 30 years ago and the consensus was that any drop on a coaster 45 degrees or steeper "appeared" to be "straight down".

                                Guess these folks wouldn't know what to do with Massachusett's Superman(70 deg) or Ohio's Millennium Force(80!!).
                                RYS to NYS: "Obi-Lonn never told you what happened to your father."

                                NYS: "He told me enough. He told me you killed him - in the 1970s!!"

                                RYS: "No, I am your father..."

                                NYS: "No, it's not true, that's impossible!!!!"

                                RYS: "Look beyond my respirator pods and my upper crown; you know it to be true!

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