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Macombs Dam Park [II] / Heritage Park (former Yankee Stadium [I] site)

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  • Originally posted by SteveJRogers View Post
    ...memorial tribute on their "office" on the anniversary of their passing, or birth or well known date of something they did in that Stadium (July 4th for Gehrig for example). You simply can not, and as long as the restrictions are in place, never do that.
    You can however in the Citi Field parking lot...
    only as long as it's in winter or when they are on the road.
    doubt that what ended up at the plate location would have been tolerated if it impeded the movement of revenue producing cars.
    bet gary would have preferred money spent for a memorial in a parking lot be better spent on his foundation -
    http://www.garycarter.org/home.html - with a tax deduction to boot.

    sentimentality is tolerated as long as it doesn't get in the way of business, remember mlb is a business...
    Last edited by Paul W; 02-28-2012, 12:00 AM.
    the turd in the punchbowl
    reality really sucks.
    enjoy the game more...

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    • [QUOTE=Paul W;1984289]
      only as long as it's in winter or when they are on the road.
      doubt that what ended up at the plate location would have been tolerated if it impeded the movement of revenue producing cars...

      sentimentality is tolerated as long as it doesn't get in the way of business, remember mlb is a business...
      You would think that would be the way to do it in ANY GIVEN parking lot, paid or not though. Yes Americans do have the right to assemble, but at the same time...say a suburban corporate office building complex, you are going to tick quite a few people off if you are assembling in that lot around noon-time on a Wednesday. It may be free to park, but it's still private property.

      No need to bring the business aspect of everything about baseball in 2012 into this part of the conversation.

      And yeah, if Carter had died during the season, the Mets would be well within their rights to turn The 7 Line, or whomever was organizing it down, IF they wanted to do it during the evening as a game, or any kind of event is going on inside the stadium, it could be a High School Championship game, or some company is having an event with clients and customers and are using the field for batting practice/softball, where the parking is concentrated closer to the tennis center rather than the Shea markers. But that's not greed, that's common sense.

      Hey this is a time where this lot is going to be filled and traffic flowing, no way are you impeding that, and causing us headaches from people complaining that you are blocking them from parking or getting in or out of the stadium.
      Last edited by SteveJRogers; 02-28-2012, 08:11 AM.
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      • Originally posted by Paul W View Post
        anyone (including my father) could use those 4 fields without having to pay for permits and reserve days/weeks/months in advance.
        now with one less field, kids can't get a pickup game together at the spur of the moment which is the best way to learn any game - not the overly regimented/mommy-fied/win-first-learn-later way that is turning kids off to the game these days.


        So now they have to get a permit..
        What's the big deal?
        "We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium, and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium, and continue to pass them on from generation to generation." Derek Jeter: September 21, 2008.

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        • Originally posted by DN4L
          So now they have to get a permit..
          What's the big deal?
          That is the big deal.

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          • Originally posted by JohnCropp View Post
            That is the big deal.

            It's not like you're applying for a written, and road test for a driver's license.. It's a simple permit to play baseball on the field(s).
            It's done on everywhere on Long Island, and it's a sinch. Plus, it keeps the "riff raff" from destroying the field(s).
            "We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium, and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium, and continue to pass them on from generation to generation." Derek Jeter: September 21, 2008.

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            • Originally posted by DN4L View Post
              So now they have to get a permit..
              What's the big deal?
              Because you can't do this:

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              Sorry we hurt your field mister...
              -George Harrison "A Hard Day's Night"
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              • Originally posted by SteveJRogers View Post
                Because you can't do this:

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                Sorry we hurt your field mister...
                -George Harrison "A Hard Day's Night"
                This whole argument is a joke.
                There's not going to be a permit checker at the field 24/7. The only thing the permit changes is that if someone shows up with a permit and there is a game already going on without one, the game without one has to leave. That's it. Little-leagues will all have permits,as will any other organized league playing there - but at the same time pickup games will be able to be played- so long as no one else has reserved the field. It works the same way at every other park in america. I'm sure Babe Ruth field prior to 2006 was able to be reserved via permit as well.

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                • Then what are they waiting for?
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                  • Bwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                    Originally posted by SteveJRogers View Post
                    Because you can't do this:



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                    Sorry we hurt your field mister...
                    -George Harrison "A Hard Day's Night"





                    With that humungous puddle, I wouldn't want to... LMAO!!!
                    PS: I love the Beatles, so keep the Beatle quotes coming..
                    Here's one for you.. "You'll never know how much I really love you.. You'll never know how much I really care." -George Harrison "Do You Want To Know A Secret"
                    "We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium, and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium, and continue to pass them on from generation to generation." Derek Jeter: September 21, 2008.

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                    • Gotta love the "Haters Gonna Hate" defense when prompted with actual facts and data.

                      Wouldn't shock me to see puddles like that on the museum piece after real bad storms.

                      And it is true, all things must pass, but there is something about this that makes me shake my head and say isn't a pity. I mean all those years ago you could do things on those fields and now its all about the taxman and fat piggies. It does make you think what is life when it comes down to it. But at the end of the day, any road that is taken hopefully leads to that field being permanently unlocked!
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                      • Originally posted by Anubis2051 View Post
                        This whole argument is a joke.
                        There's not going to be a permit checker at the field 24/7. The only thing the permit changes is that if someone shows up with a permit and there is a game already going on without one, the game without one has to leave. That's it. Little-leagues will all have permits,as will any other organized league playing there - but at the same time pickup games will be able to be played- so long as no one else has reserved the field. It works the same way at every other park in america. I'm sure Babe Ruth field prior to 2006 was able to be reserved via permit as well.
                        Not so fast, my friend. A ton of what was advertised for that site turned out to be a pack of lies that's running years behind schedule.

                        That running track on a garage is restricted and closed 81 days during the summer where before the running track was open and free, who knows what restrictions are coming beyond permits for games or who's in charge of security.

                        http://articles.nydailynews.com/2009...combs-dam-park
                        10/13/2009

                        The Parks Department announced last week that Heritage Field, the park replacing the old Yankee Stadium, won't be completed until the fall of 2011 - a year and a half after the city originally promised.

                        The main holdup is that despite standing idle for the past year, the old stadium still occupies the site where Heritage Field, with its three baseball diamonds, will be built. The city maintains that the process is on schedule.

                        "There has been no delay in the deconstruction schedule and none is anticipated," said City Hall spokesman Andrew Brent.


                        But unlike the original track, it will not be open 24 hours a day. As part of the new Macombs Dam Park, built atop a completed parking garage, the track will be closed from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m., cramping the routines of many local joggers who need earlier access before work.

                        The restricted access was the main complaint by residents at last week's briefing, but Parks officials noted that all city parks are closed during those hours - the original Macombs Dam Park just didn't have a gate.

                        Ironically, even when Heritage Field's three baseball diamonds shine on the old site of the House that Ruth built, there will be times when no one can use them.

                        Since the new track is on a garage roof, some throwing events at track meets will have to be held at Heritage Field - its ballfields would have to close, lest any players risk injury from a javelin, discus or shot.

                        http://articles.nydailynews.com/2010...combs-dam-park

                        "They took away a lot," said Joseph Texeira, 39, of Jerome Ave. as he walked his dog through Macombs Dam Park. "The old jogging field was much better. The new one is all artificial turf and it feels fake. There's no trees. It's just not natural."

                        "I'm not happy," said 10-year-old Jason Miller, as he played with friends in John Mullaly Park.

                        "They took our park away and the new one isn't finished yet. I've been coming here all my life and I didn't see why the Yankees needed a new stadium. The old one was fine."

                        The redevelopment project has been fraught with delays and controversy.

                        The skate park was originally set to open in 2007 and Joseph Yancy Track and Field, which opened in April, was initially scheduled for completion in 2009.
                        Last edited by WEB; 02-28-2012, 10:39 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Anubis2051 View Post
                          This whole argument is a joke.
                          There's not going to be a permit checker at the field 24/7. The only thing the permit changes is that if someone shows up with a permit and there is a game already going on without one, the game without one has to leave. That's it. Little-leagues will all have permits,as will any other organized league playing there - but at the same time pickup games will be able to be played- so long as no one else has reserved the field. It works the same way at every other park in america. I'm sure Babe Ruth field prior to 2006 was able to be reserved via permit as well.




                          They've always got something to complain about the New York Yankees..
                          I'm actually starting to feel sorry for them..

                          Bottom line.. RYS is long gone, NYS is here to stay, and Heritage Field is a beautiful park..
                          So the "Real Yankee Stadium Pass" Yankee fans WIN!!!!
                          "We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium, and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium, and continue to pass them on from generation to generation." Derek Jeter: September 21, 2008.

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                          • Originally posted by WEB View Post
                            The restricted access was the main complaint by residents at last week's briefing, but Parks officials noted that all city parks are closed during those hours - the original Macombs Dam Park just didn't have a gate.
                            There you go.

                            So if all city parks are closed during those hours anyway, why single out Heritage Field for extra hate?

                            Looks like there's more Luddites here than I first imagined...
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                            • Originally posted by DN4L View Post
                              I'm actually starting to feel sorry for them..
                              More like we feel sorry for you, the words in that article say it perfectly what Steinbrenner turned a generation of fans like you and what Yankee Stadium now represents into.

                              You lost and you don't even know it.

                              Sadly the neighborhood has also been ruined forever along with the true stadium site.

                              This is the true monument that should go in the new MaCombs Dam Park.

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                              Last edited by WEB; 02-29-2012, 12:11 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by WEB View Post
                                More like we feel sorry for you, the words in that article say it perfectly what Steinbrenner turned a generation of fans like you and what Yankee Stadium now represents into.

                                You lost and you don't even know it.

                                Sadly the neighborhood has also been ruined forever along with the true stadium site.

                                This is the true monument that should go in the new MaCombs Dam Park.

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                                Where you in a coma for the last 15 years?

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