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Macombs Dam Park [II] / Heritage Park (former Yankee Stadium [I] site)

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  • http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
    Baseball pays tribute to pioneer Robinson

    Earlier in the day, Sharon was joined by Hall of Famer Reggie Jackson and Angels pitcher LaTroy Hawkins, among others, for ceremonies and a baseball and softball clinic on the baseball field in Macombs Dam Park across the street from Yankee Stadium for 200 players who participate in local Reviving Baseball in Inner Cities (RBI) programs.

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    • Fascinating, the small spectator stadium in the old Macombs Dam Park was dedicated to the Bambino - from the Parks Department:

      Babe Ruth Memorial Stadium, dedicated to baseball favorite George Herman "Babe" Ruth, further enhanced the facilities of Macomb's Dam Park.
      As 'Heritage Field' really meant nothing and was easily abandoned, do you think anyone would oppose moving the Babe Ruth name across the street from the rather sterile, nearly empty (on non-game days), wind-blown, poorly-designed, wrapper-filled bus drop-off area to the new green diamonds?

      It would be far more fitting and I think a nice compromise for Yankee fans who'd like some connection in terms of the name on the new field....
      Cleon Jones catches a deep fly ball in F. Scott Fitzgerald's Valley of the Ashes, and a second-grader smiles in front of the black and white television.

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      • http://www.ultimateyankees.com/MacombsDamPark.htm

        Very good current (and historical) site with some excellent images, including a few not posted recently, also an interview with the designers that's worth reading.

        MaCombs Dam Park 2 18 2012 (32) [1024x768].JPGMaCombs Dam Park 2 18 2012 (31) [1024x768].JPG

        Here's some nice dedication pics from the Joseph Yancey track and field. normal.jpgnormal2.jpg
        Last edited by WEB; 04-16-2012, 03:39 PM.

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        • Originally posted by YankeeStadium1923 View Post
          Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man

          So is yours.
          "We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium, and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium, and continue to pass them on from generation to generation." Derek Jeter: September 21, 2008.

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          • Heritage Field was a working name for the project. The name of the new park was going to be Macombs Dam park from day one.
            Yankee Stadium 1923-2008

            Avid fan of the greatest Stadium ever built! Both in beauty and aesthetics throughout its long Glorious history.

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            • Originally posted by YankeeStadium1923 View Post
              Heritage Field was a working name for the project. The name of the new park was going to be Macombs Dam park from day one.
              Is there a source for that? Not just asking you 1923, but in general. If someone could dig this up and corraborate it that would help.
              RYS to NYS: "Obi-Lonn never told you what happened to your father."

              NYS: "He told me enough. He told me you killed him - in the 1970s!!"

              RYS: "No, I am your father..."

              NYS: "No, it's not true, that's impossible!!!!"

              RYS: "Look beyond my respirator pods and my upper crown; you know it to be true!

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              • "Heritage Field" never meant anything - heck, it has nothing to do with the Yankees!

                If they'd gone with Babe Ruth Field or Lou Gehrig Field at Macombs Dam Park I think a lot of baseball purists here would be pretty happy with the city. "Heritage" sounds like some kind of wacked out Confederate museum in Georgia to me. It never worked, never meant a darned thing to anybody.
                Cleon Jones catches a deep fly ball in F. Scott Fitzgerald's Valley of the Ashes, and a second-grader smiles in front of the black and white television.

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                • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
                  "Heritage" sounds like some kind of wacked out Confederate museum in Georgia to me.
                  When I heard the name "Heritage Field" my first thought was of the auction house.
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                  Archie Bunker: All I can tell you, Edith, is I'm surprised at you! Dragging me off to a moving picture like that! It was absolutely disgusting!
                  Edith Bunker: Well, I'm sorry, Archie, how was I to know? I thought it was a religious picture, "Cardinal Knowledge!"

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                  • Originally posted by NYFan1stYankFan2nd View Post
                    Is there a source for that? Not just asking you 1923, but in general. If someone could dig this up and corraborate it that would help.
                    Andrew Winter's, the director of the Mayor's Office for Capital projects, mentioned that "Heritage Field" was a working name for the project during one of the last Design Commission meetings concerning Gate 2.
                    Yankee Stadium 1923-2008

                    Avid fan of the greatest Stadium ever built! Both in beauty and aesthetics throughout its long Glorious history.

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                    • Originally posted by Strawman View Post
                      "Heritage Field" never meant anything - heck, it has nothing to do with the Yankees!

                      If they'd gone with Babe Ruth Field or Lou Gehrig Field at Macombs Dam Park I think a lot of baseball purists here would be pretty happy with the city. "Heritage" sounds like some kind of wacked out Confederate museum in Georgia to me. It never worked, never meant a darned thing to anybody.
                      I'm sure a compromise could have been worked out....Keeping the name of the park Macombs Dam and naming the fields after Yankee greats sounds like a good idea.
                      Yankee Stadium 1923-2008

                      Avid fan of the greatest Stadium ever built! Both in beauty and aesthetics throughout its long Glorious history.

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                      • Originally posted by YankeeStadium1923 View Post
                        Andrew Winter's, the director of the Mayor's Office for Capital projects, mentioned that "Heritage Field" was a working name for the project during one of the last Design Commission meetings concerning Gate 2.
                        So this really is all the City's doing. The Yanks could have at least raised one finger during this stage and said something! They could have had their new Stadium while the OYS site could have born some clue as to what greatness stood there before - renovated or otherwise. Let me ask a question here:

                        Take someone born in, okay, 2005 or later. What are they now, 7, 6, 5 years old? Once they are old enough for it to mean something to them, when they go to Heritage Field as it looks now, are they really going to think there once stood a major league stadium on that spot? Seriously. When they go by on the Major Deegan or approach the panorama of Stadium and public park in front of them via the Macombs Dam Bridge are they really going to think "Hey, isn't YS supposed to be on the right-hand side of this picture??"

                        I don't think so. Their reality, their perception of YS, until they start going to the library or on the internet and start researching the subject, is that Yankee Stadium was always where their young eyes saw it for the first time. And their parents heros - Jackson, O'Neill, Cone, Jeter, Pettite - will be associated solely with the new YS. And because of how Heritage Field finally turned out, with absolutely no remnant of pre-1973 OYS around, and nothing even on the "Macombs Dam Park" markers, when their parents or uncles tell them "This is where YS used to be", the kid's reaction will be, "..uhh huhh.." There will still be more left of Titanic in 2212 than of OYS in Heritage Field!

                        Sad.
                        Last edited by NYFan1stYankFan2nd; 04-17-2012, 07:52 AM.
                        RYS to NYS: "Obi-Lonn never told you what happened to your father."

                        NYS: "He told me enough. He told me you killed him - in the 1970s!!"

                        RYS: "No, I am your father..."

                        NYS: "No, it's not true, that's impossible!!!!"

                        RYS: "Look beyond my respirator pods and my upper crown; you know it to be true!

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                        • "The Old Fenway Park was brutalized by all those additions - let's tear it down too!"

                          Apparently this image was taken the wrong way, so I'll repost - with an explanation:

                          This is not about "Red Sox vs Yankees". It was aimed at a mentality(which I parodied above) that seems to exist on here regarding the treatment of OYS, that there wasn't enough worth saving of OYS, not against any individuals.

                          This is about how each team's hometowns have handled a pair of buildings roughly in the same age group. And it seems the forces that be in Boston cared more about history and "Heritage" than their counterparts in NYC ever will!

                          If you want to move this at least give it some respect and relocate it - don't just delete it. I'm not the only one who feels this way.
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                          RYS to NYS: "Obi-Lonn never told you what happened to your father."

                          NYS: "He told me enough. He told me you killed him - in the 1970s!!"

                          RYS: "No, I am your father..."

                          NYS: "No, it's not true, that's impossible!!!!"

                          RYS: "Look beyond my respirator pods and my upper crown; you know it to be true!

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                          • Originally posted by NYFan1stYankFan2nd View Post
                            Let me ask a question here:

                            Take someone born in, okay, 2005 or later. What are they now, 7, 6, 5 years old? Once they are old enough for it to mean something to them, when they go to Heritage Field as it looks now, are they really going to think there once stood a major league stadium on that spot? Seriously. When they go by on the Major Deegan or approach the panorama of Stadium and public park in front of them via the Macombs Dam Bridge are they really going to think "Hey, isn't YS supposed to be on the right-hand side of this picture??"

                            I don't think so. Their reality, their perception of YS, until they start going to the library or on the internet and start researching the subject, is that Yankee Stadium was always where their young eyes saw it for the first time. And their parents heros - Jackson, O'Neill, Cone, Jeter, Pettite - will be associated solely with the new YS. And because of how Heritage Field finally turned out, with absolutely no remnant of pre-1973 OYS around, and nothing even on the "Macombs Dam Park" markers, when their parents or uncles tell them "This is where YS used to be", the kid's reaction will be, "..uhh huhh.." There will still be more left of Titanic in 2212 than of OYS in Heritage Field!

                            Sad.



                            The same exact thing could be said about Shea Stadium's old location.
                            But we never hear these complaints here on BBF, regarding the parking lot at Citi Field, where Shea once stood.
                            Go figure..
                            "We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium, and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium, and continue to pass them on from generation to generation." Derek Jeter: September 21, 2008.

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                            • Originally posted by DN4L View Post
                              The same exact thing could be said about Shea Stadium's old location.
                              But we never hear these complaints here on BBF, regarding the parking lot at Citi Field, where Shea once stood.
                              Go figure..
                              The difference is that we know because we've been around, well, a while! But you're right, little Metsies born sooner than 10 years ago may perceive CF as the original home of their team, and of their parents' heros - Strawberry, Dykstra, Reyes, Beltran, et al. Still, they do have the bronze base markers! What does OYS/RYS have?
                              RYS to NYS: "Obi-Lonn never told you what happened to your father."

                              NYS: "He told me enough. He told me you killed him - in the 1970s!!"

                              RYS: "No, I am your father..."

                              NYS: "No, it's not true, that's impossible!!!!"

                              RYS: "Look beyond my respirator pods and my upper crown; you know it to be true!

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                              • What does OYS/RYS have??

                                Originally posted by NYFan1stYankFan2nd View Post
                                The difference is that we know because we've been around, well, a while! But you're right, little Metsies born sooner than 10 years ago may perceive CF as the original home of their team, and of their parents' heros - Strawberry, Dykstra, Reyes, Beltran, et al. Still, they do have the bronze base markers! What does OYS/RYS have?



                                Bronze markers in a parking lot, are better than a beautiful park??
                                Oh, and to answer your last question..


                                "We're relying on you to take the memories from this stadium, and add them to the new memories we make at the new Yankee Stadium, and continue to pass them on from generation to generation." Derek Jeter: September 21, 2008.

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