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West Side Park & West Side Grounds - Chicago, IL

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bill Burgess
    West Side Grounds:
    Home of the Chicago Cubs, May 4, 1894 - October 3, 1915; 21 years
    Original 1893 seating capacity: 16,000
    LF: 340; CF: 560; RF: 316
    Demolished: 1920
    Wikipedia: West Side Park

    1912 City Series: Cubs / White Sox

    WOW, look at that roped off crowd on the field in left field. Wouldn't take much of a drive to hit one into the crowd. I think they were ground rule doubles in most parks.

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    • #17
      The City Series look like they were a bigger draw than the World Series was a hundred years ago.

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      • #18
        Those series against the Tigers were low draws. In fact, being a Tiger fan, I can find nothing good to say about them.

        Seriously, the '07 and '08 Series have to be among the most boring in history. The only things that come to mind when I think of those Series is how, in '07, Germany Shafer aroused suspicions when he asked the National Commission whether the players would get the gate receipts in a tie game, and then, thanks to a passed ball, the teams did play to a tie; and in '08, when the BBWAA was born.

        So as a Tiger Fan, West Side Park doesn't exactly hold fuzzy memories!!!!
        "Hey Mr. McGraw! Can I pitch to-day?"

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        • #19
          How is it that in Post #8, the grandstand doesn't extend all the way down the field past the foul lines, like it does in all the other photos? Is the date misidentified?

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          • #20
            Bill, the date of the picture is correct. They added the extension down first and third base lines in 1908.

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            • #21
              Outstanding work by Bsmile.

              But, being a ballpark thread, this really should be in the "Ballparks..." forum ("Discuss both modern and historic ballparks."), hmm?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by westsidegrounds
                Outstanding work by Bsmile.
                Indeed. I agree. His photo work is outstanding! His mastery of subtlety and nuance is high art, and cultural sublimity. But this subject is also fitting for a historical discussion, too. It fits nicely in both.

                By the way, westsidegrounds, could I persuade you to vote in my poll Wagner/Mays.

                Would much appreciate it and consider is a big favor, if you could. Thanks.

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                • #23
                  Westsidegrounds,

                  Will you EVER vote in my Wagner/Mays poll?

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                  • #24
                    Bill asked:
                    How is it that in Post #8, the grandstand doesn't extend all the way down the field past the foul lines, like it does in all the other photos? Is the date misidentified?

                    Originally posted by Dto7
                    Bill, the date of the picture is correct. They added the extension down first and third base lines in 1908.
                    See #9 and especially #10, labeled 1907. The grandstand extends down the foul line beyond the outfield.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Paul Wendt
                      Bill asked:
                      How is it that in Post #8, the grandstand doesn't extend all the way down the field past the foul lines, like it does in all the other photos? Is the date misidentified?



                      See #9 and especially #10, labeled 1907. The grandstand extends down the foul line beyond the outfield.
                      Only #2, #3, #4 and #8 have dates on the actual photos. They did play the Tigers in 1907 and 1908.

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                      • #26
                        West Side Grounds & West Side Park

                        Thanks to Milladrive for merging my recent posts with a long lost thread about these Chicago parks, both home to the Cubs franchise.

                        A quick refresher - there were two incarnations, along with time at South Side Park. Timeline:

                        1885-1891 - West Side Park I when the franchise was known as the White Stockings and then the Colts.

                        1891-1892 - South Side Park (different thread)- moved there as the Colts.

                        1893 - West Side Park II opens (from what I can gather, the second incarnation was called both "Park" and "Grounds"). Colts split season between South Side Park and West Side Park II that season.

                        1894-1915 - Franchise plays exclusively at West Side Park II. They would become the Orphans in 1898, then finally the Cubs in 1902. They would move to the defunct Federal League's Weeghman Park for the 1916 season, renamed Cubs Park in 1919, and Wrigley Field in 1927.

                        P.S. - In 1901 the White Sox are born (AL) and play at South Side Park through 1910. They'd move to new White Sox Park during the 1910 season (renamed Comiskey Park in 1913).

                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Side_Park

                        Anyhoo, here's some nice photos to get the thread going again.


                        1902, Dusty Rhodes of the Cleveland Bronchos batting.




                        Cubs/Sox exhibition, 1905.




                        1906 Series




                        1908, expanded left side grandstand




                        1908, with rooftop bleachers (Wrigley prototype!)




                        August 30, 1908


                        Largest size


                        Also 1908

                        Last edited by alpineinc; 09-02-2017, 09:43 AM.
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                        • #27
                          New RF billboard, 1910




                          1910




                          1912 "City Series", non-sepia version of previously posted pic.




                          1916, Buffalo Bill Wild West show (after Cubs left for the greener pastures of Weeghman Park)

                          Last edited by alpineinc; 01-17-2012, 03:16 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Christy Mathewson, NY Giant, in for a Cubs series. Source says 1905, but uniform appears to be from 1911.



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                            • #29
                              Site of West Side Park in Chicago...



                              And the site of West Side Grounds...

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                              • #30
                                Wow, some really great stuff! I love when ballparks are all but forgotten until someone here pulls them out of their cap. Thanks, alpineinc!
                                "And their chances of getting back into this ballgame are growing dimmer by the batter."


                                Put it in the books.

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