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  • Originally posted by robardin View Post

    No, this First Data thing replaces the Delta Lounge this season (2018), as I understand it. I haven't been there myself.

    The thing is, I don't really WANT the Mets to have a "YS Legends" level food service Inner Ring seating category. I'd rather they simplify the entire seating pricing and amenities structures to be based around watching the game. Go figure.

    Besides, the cost is also commensurate, isn't it? YS Legends seats are well above four digits, no, while these Delta Gold/First Data seats are "only" 600 or so (and like $150-200 on StubHub for some games)?

    And I really, really like the idea of having unlimited ballpark concessions food as the deal, instead of some buffet, no matter how fancy. Part of what makes Citi Field Citi Field is the assembly of gourmet ballpark food offerings, the perk being "no wait - have it delivered to you in your seats" is perfect.
    I have sat , over the years, in Delta Platinum a handful of times (either 4 of 5). I think Platinum was the first row, but not sure. I have only been in Legends one time. I paid $300 on stubhub for legends in 2016 to see Kershaw and the Dodgers. I think the Yankees have created an artificial floor on the secondary market of $350 for legends. I think I was in 114 A (or B?) and I think the face was $600. I was a few sections over from the 'lesser' Champions seats but could access their grab and go selections.

    I ate in Legends for about 90 minutes before the first pitch. It was remarkable. The game had 2 rain delays so I ducked back in for desert and coffee. The Delta Lounge at Citi , while a nice perk, was basically some ball park fare with small round tables to stand around. it was a bit small and crowded. Legends has all you care to eat king crab/lobster/jumbo shrimp. The guest chef that day was the Chef from Michael. Jordan's Steakhouse.
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      • Originally posted by therick View Post
        I think the big difference at First Data is that you are allowed to get food for free from just about any stand in the ballpark, like Shake shack, etc. and I think those vendors are available in the club as well, but I’m not sure if they are part of the buffet or if it’s via waiter service.

        There seem to be some moderately priced (by their standards)tickets for Hyundai club in the coming weeks on the secondary market. Can’t say the same for First Data.
        I was in the First Data Club about 2 years when it had a different sponsor. I think the main draw of Delta Platinum and Gold seats (First Data Club) are it's proximity to the field and its exclusiveness. You enter on street level and there are only 4 or 5 rows. The seats are also in front of a moat (which separates the haves from the haves more.

        I'm sure they probably upgraded it but the actual dining area was very small when I was there (like long 2 tables with stools). And the food and soft drinks (although good) seemed junior or snack sized.

        I'm always shocked to see on TV people ordering and getting food delivered these seats. Maybe they don't know food is included or they don't care.

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        • Originally posted by robardin View Post
          I was at Citi Field this past Saturday - a perfect weather day for baseball, one of the top promos on the calendar (a Jacob deGrom bobblehead), and a 4PM start to boot.

          I went up to the Promenade food court to get the Alpine Brat (they moved it there from inside the club).

          The line was long, and slow. I would estimate it took about 20 minutes for my son and me to get our food, despite there only being like 7 people ahead of us, the first 3 of who had already ordered and were waiting for their food to get assembled when we arrived at the stand.
          This reminds me about how awful the old Harry M. Stevens (the legacy for corporate name for Aramark) concession stand operation was at Shea in the 1970 and '80s
          They seemed to have a more mature staff who did not seem in a big rush.
          What made it worse was they had only 1 or 2 cash registers for each stand. So the cashier had to walk back and forth to complete the cash only transaction.
          And if you ordered a soda, you got watered down soda in a paper cup. No ice,No straw,No cover!

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          • [QUOTE=sheagoodbye1010;n3487173]

            This reminds me about how awful the old Harry M. Stevens (the legacy for corporate name for Aramark) concession stand operation was at Shea in the 1970 and '80s
            They seemed to have a more mature staff who did not seem in a big rush.
            What made it worse was they had only 1 or 2 cash registers for each stand. So the cashier had to walk back and forth to complete the cash only transaction.
            And if you ordered a soda, you got watered down soda in a paper cup. No ice,No straw,No cover!

            Yes but it was RC. Classic!!

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            • They also had "beer only" lines at Shea, as immortalized in the King of Queens episode "Doug Out," (season 2 episode 6, original air date October 25, 1999) which has some scenes filmed at Shea Stadium. Carrie Heffernan (Leah Remini) gets on a long line and tries to order a "coolie cue," whatever that is, only to be told that she's on a "beer only" line, and even after agreeing to buy a beer as well, the guy won't sell her a "coolie cue" even though they're right behind him.

              There are some interesting anachronisms as well: when Doug Heffernan (Kevin James) runs on the field, you see the scoreboard in "Welcome to Shea Stadium" mode instead of having actual game information, the time on the clock is 9:19am (presumably the actual time of day the segment was taped), and the Apple is up, which it shouldn't be since no home run was hit. Also, Doug's running on the field was shown on TV with commentary by Bob Murphy - I don't know when they stopped showing fans running on the field, but I'm sure it was before 1999.

              Scroll to 17:14 to see Carrie get on a line, 19:48 to see the scoreboard, 19:58 to see the game shown on TV with Murphy's comments.
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              - one of the YES Network broadcasters, after the camera cut to me doing the thumbs-down after Todd Frazier's home run

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              • Originally posted by sheagoodbye1010 View Post

                I was in the First Data Club about 2 years when it had a different sponsor. I think the main draw of Delta Platinum and Gold seats (First Data Club) are it's proximity to the field and its exclusiveness. You enter on street level and there are only 4 or 5 rows. The seats are also in front of a moat (which separates the haves from the haves more.

                I'm sure they probably upgraded it but the actual dining area was very small when I was there (like long 2 tables with stools). And the food and soft drinks (although good) seemed junior or snack sized.

                I'm always shocked to see on TV people ordering and getting food delivered these seats. Maybe they don't know food is included or they don't care.
                Totally different First Data Club this year. They enlarged it, taking space from old entrance to the Rotunda and doing away with a hallway.

                The people you see getting food food delivered at their seats and paying are in metropolitan seating which is extensive. They aren’t in the First Data seating area.

                I toured the First Data Club area a couple of days ago before doing the play ball before the game.

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                • For the 2018 STH's .. What are your plans for 2019? Keep? Dump? Wait & See?

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                  • Originally posted by headshoes View Post
                    For the 2018 STH's .. What are your plans for 2019? Keep? Dump? Wait & See?
                    Keep. Hope/trust prices go down.

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                    • Originally posted by headshoes View Post
                      For the 2018 STH's .. What are your plans for 2019? Keep? Dump? Wait & See?
                      Unless they change it up (revamp plans), I expect to keep mine.
                      20-Game Saturday Plan, Prom Box 423.

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                      • Originally posted by headshoes View Post
                        For the 2018 STH's .. What are your plans for 2019? Keep? Dump? Wait & See?
                        All dependent on what the plan looks like. I went to less games than usual this year because I'm pretty disgusted with ownership/front office/team etc and it seems they don't have a good plan in place for the future. I sold a few games early on plus opening day/Yankees so whatever I sold I'm up slightly on so it's not like I'm bleeding money on the plan. It just comes down to if they keep the same plans, pricing stays the same or go down, etc. I don't expect this team to be good or great again in the near future so if I do renew, I'm hoping to upgrade my seats within Prom Box which is always tough.

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                        • Originally posted by jcat93 View Post

                          All dependent on what the plan looks like. I went to less games than usual this year because I'm pretty disgusted with ownership/front office/team etc and it seems they don't have a good plan in place for the future. I sold a few games early on plus opening day/Yankees so whatever I sold I'm up slightly on so it's not like I'm bleeding money on the plan. It just comes down to if they keep the same plans, pricing stays the same or go down, etc. I don't expect this team to be good or great again in the near future so if I do renew, I'm hoping to upgrade my seats within Prom Box which is always tough.
                          This applies for me, in spades.

                          When I find myself much happier completely ignoring the existence of the Mets after Memorial Day, yet again, what is the point? When I'm reselling 70+ games a season, and at best breaking even and most likely not even that, it's work, it's stress, and even if I'm not "bleeding money", just... Why?

                          In 2011, the team was actually competitive around the All-Star Break - above .500 and within 5 games of a WC spot - but went into fire sale and rebuild mode instead, a shakeout so complete that Carlos Beltran, the team leader in HR and RBI when he was traded in late July, still ended up the 2011 Mets team leader in HR and RBI. And then Jose Reyes won a batting title and left town.

                          In 2012-2014 the Mets were relatively hopeless and never in contention, but there were bright spots that gave hope for the future, or reasons to go to the ballpark, even though in typical Mets fashion, they always managed to get some sourness with the sweet.

                          In 2012, Juan Lagares won a Gold Glove, RA Dickey won a Cy Young, but then got traded.

                          In 2013, Citi Field hosted the All-Star Game, Matt Harvey was as electric as any prospect has ever been, but went down in late August for TJS.

                          In 2014, Travis d'Arnaud looked like he might fulfill his touted promise and Jacob deGrom went from relatively unheralded prospect to win the ROY, and I was getting genuinely getting excited for what might be on tap for the Mets.

                          That spring Sandy Alderson spoke of winning 90 games as a target, and over-eager fans had a countdown sign in CF for a while that went nowhere as the team won 79 games, but things were about to jell as in 2015, it briefly all came together.

                          I don't need to review for Mets fans what happened, and didn't happen, but long story short, in 2015 they did finally win 90 games, they actually won the division due to a weakened and possibly mismanaged Nationals team, and then...

                          And then! The warning signs were all there that off-season.

                          Again without going into details any Mets fan would be familiar with, the front office seemed focused on keeping payroll level rather than leveling up. We've seen other MLB teams - the Phillies, the Cubs, the Yankees - have a breakout 90 win season, and make moves to improve the team to be a 100 win team on paper, so that a "90 win season to contend for a WC or win a weak division" would be a worse case scenario.

                          The Mets made plenty of moves after 2015, but they were all calculated to avoid big contract commitments, all primarily bets on in-house guys being healthy/productive, and all new pieces being short-term adds of role-playing, offensively single dimensional veterans whose best case scenario would be to catch a "bounce-back season".

                          It has been more or less proven that the mission statement - the mandate from ownership - is to build "a team that can win 90 games if things go right, while avoiding large/long term financial commitments", and then hope that things go right, as they did in 2015.

                          People here rip on the Mets for that "if things go right" assumption, because it so rarely does for the Mets, but really, there's no shame in having "if things go right" as a precondition for success. EVERY team does that. There is no team that could withstand losing half of their Opening Day lineup and 2 starting pitchers and a closer for half or more of the season, and not take a hit in the win column.

                          And I'm not even going to go after "the training staff" or "Mike Barwis" as a reason for the Mets' seemingly cursed nature with player injuries.

                          I'm going to say that an organization that has, as a stated goal, "to build a team that will, in a best case, if-most-things-go-right scenario, win 90 games this season and we'll worry about next season later, while avoiding trading for or signing big name/big contract players" - or more succinctly, and also a direct ownership quote, "to play meaningful games in September", and that was when they still had Madoff money - is not well run.

                          And that an organization with a very long history of "bad luck" with player health, only going after flawed, second-tier type guys, and still miscalculating on those choices as well, will never really succeed.

                          Consistently aiming low is shameful. Aiming low and consistently missing wide is worse. And I think I'm through investing in this - not financially, but emotionally. Which in turn means there is no reason to take a potential financial hit for something I am not sure I care a damn about any more.
                          Last edited by robardin; 07-16-2018, 09:12 AM.
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                          • Here's a TLDR summary of my last rant:

                            The Mets did a rebuild job from 2012-2014, to rebuild from within for a "window of contention" circa 2017.

                            Their "rebuild job" appeared to arrive a year or two early in 2015.

                            They reacted not by improving the core team as much as possible, but by taking on short term veteran role-filling players with limited financial exposure to bring back an Opening Day 2016 roster that was, on paper, roughly equivalent (and not clearly better in any way) than their 2015 World Series roster... And that was only after bringing back Cespedes on a 1-year deal in late January. Had he signed somewhere else for more years or more money, they'd have had a WORSE team, EVEN ON PAPER, with no urgency shown in the offseason to improve.

                            I would summarize that as ownership continuing to have "try to win 90 games and contend for a post-season berth via the Wild Card" as their primary strategy, even when their rebuild was working.

                            Well, several key guys of the "young core" from 2015 have not ever looked as good as they have since 2015, and/or missed huge chunks of time; most of the components of the 2015 rebuild are effectively kaput.

                            So if 2015 was a best-case scenario, it seems we're in for another 3-4 year "rebuild", it's going to be them reaching for that brass ring of another 90 win, one-shot season, based on a core of young guys they don't aim to keep after free agency, and adding a rotating complementary set of veterans on 1- or 2-year contracts (maybe with an option year) to compete year over year.

                            Do I think the Mets will succeed at that? Maybe.

                            Do I want to be a part of that, emotionally, on a daily basis? Not any more.

                            Will I likely go to more than 5 games a season until the Mets actually convince me they've got something going on? Not really.

                            Is my plan location an absolute "best in the ballpark" bang/buck that I'd want to keep forever? Close, but no cigar. (Section 326 row 2 on the aisle is not bad, but I'm very tired of the plexiglass view of home plate in seat #1, we're always fighting over getting to sit in seat #2.)

                            Will I expend a lot of time and money to lose money if I bought a Mets ticket plan, based on half of 2016, 2017, and 2018? Oh my, yes.

                            Are the perks work that? Not when they keep removing valuable ones as soon as the team seems like it might do well, like getting money back (even as Mets gift cards) for rained out games, or STH pricing for single game tickets for Marquee and Premium games, and so on.

                            Would I re-up for a plan in a really, really perfect location? Maybe.

                            Would renewing my current location improve my odds of getting that? No, because as I have carefully monitored every off-season, the "select-a-seat" inventory is mostly crapola, the "real" unrenewed inventory only gets released in late January, or even early February, after they keep hounding the existing plan holders to renew.

                            They clearly have incentive to keep accounts from closing. So my best strategy is to be very firm on exactly which location(s) I'd renew over, not renew my current location, wait to hear from the Mets in early February, and only renew then, if at all. And be very willing to just walk away if they don't come back with my exact specifications.
                            Last edited by robardin; 07-16-2018, 09:14 AM.
                            «Telle est la vie des hommes. Quelques joies, très vite effacées par d’inoubliables chagrins. Il n'est pas nécessaire de le dire aux enfants...» (Marcel Pagnol)

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                            • I'm guessing ticket sales aren't going very well...

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                              • Originally posted by GordonGecko View Post
                                I'm guessing ticket sales aren't going very well...

                                How did they come up with 48%? Very odd percentage from a marketing perspective. Why not just 50%? Are the Wilpons that cheap AND stupid?

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