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  • #91
    Why did they go with a very small capacity?
    Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

    If hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports, then pitching must be the easiest thing to do in sports.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by UnderPressure View Post
      Why did they go with a very small capacity?
      Probably because after years of playing at a stadium with 67,000 seats that made even healthy sized crowds of 30,000+ look anemic, Marlins brass wanted to go in the opposite direction. And if more that 37,000 people wanted to get in but couldn't, then it would just go to the concept of demand and make the Marlins a hotter ticket.

      That and it probably wouldn't be too wise to have a stadium that is too large in that neighborhood given the parking situation.


      I'm okay with that with one exception--post season games. When the Marlins made the postseason, Joe Robbie Stadium was an entirely different stadium. 67,000 screaming fans created a huge advantage for them. You won't get that in the new park.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by PeteU View Post
        Probably because after years of playing at a stadium with 67,000 seats that made even healthy sized crowds of 30,000+ look anemic, Marlins brass wanted to go in the opposite direction. And if more that 37,000 people wanted to get in but couldn't, then it would just go to the concept of demand and make the Marlins a hotter ticket.

        That and it probably wouldn't be too wise to have a stadium that is too large in that neighborhood given the parking situation.


        I'm okay with that with one exception--post season games. When the Marlins made the postseason, Joe Robbie Stadium was an entirely different stadium. 67,000 screaming fans created a huge advantage for them. You won't get that in the new park.

        I feel that at least 40k is the standard capacity. Then again, you have newer stadiums like PNC and Target that both have under 40k.
        Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

        If hitting a baseball is the toughest thing to do in sports, then pitching must be the easiest thing to do in sports.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by PeteU View Post
          Probably because after years of playing at a stadium with 67,000 seats that made even healthy sized crowds of 30,000+ look anemic, Marlins brass wanted to go in the opposite direction. And if more that 37,000 people wanted to get in but couldn't, then it would just go to the concept of demand and make the Marlins a hotter ticket.

          That and it probably wouldn't be too wise to have a stadium that is too large in that neighborhood given the parking situation.


          I'm okay with that with one exception--post season games. When the Marlins made the postseason, Joe Robbie Stadium was an entirely different stadium. 67,000 screaming fans created a huge advantage for them. You won't get that in the new park.
          I feel like there is nothing worse then a sea of seats in a stadium, even when you watch a football game like when the USFL's LA express would get 30,000 people at the coliseum it looked tiny. I think with the roof closed and and a sell out for the marlins playoffs you will still have some good noise with those low ceilings.
          The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by schnu View Post
            And the Padres played the Cardinals at Aloha Stadium in Honolulu in 1997 - further south than Miami too. But PR still beats them both.
            Well, I was going for regular use stadiums

            But turns out I was wrong about some of the others. Fenway is indeed the eastern-most at 71 05' 50.32" W. Surprisingly, AT&T Park is further west than Safeco, 122 23' 21.06" W to 122 19' 54.52" W. However, Safeco is the furthest north at 47 35' 28.23" N (I forgot that due to the Great Lakes, the US-Canada border dips south a few hundred miles, and therefore Toronto is signifcantly south of Seattle).

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            • #96
              Originally posted by TommieAgeefan View Post
              Well, I was going for regular use stadiums

              But turns out I was wrong about some of the others. Fenway is indeed the eastern-most at 71 05' 50.32" W. Surprisingly, AT&T Park is further west than Safeco, 122 23' 21.06" W to 122 19' 54.52" W. However, Safeco is the furthest north at 47 35' 28.23" N (I forgot that due to the Great Lakes, the US-Canada border dips south a few hundred miles, and therefore Toronto is signifcantly south of Seattle).
              Windsor, Ontario is actually directly south of Detroit, Michigan

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              • #97
                Originally posted by schnu View Post
                BTW - anybody know what was the last ballpark that didn't sell out it's first reg season game ever?

                My guess would be the Rays first home game ever...
                Other than the fact that the Marlins' opener and the Ray's first home game ever were complete sell-outs, you are
                spot on with your analysis.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by The Old Ballpark View Post
                  Other than the fact that the Marlins' opener and the Ray's first home game ever were complete sell-outs, you are
                  spot on with your analysis.
                  But the rays averaged 30,942 their first year. So it only took a year for the distance and the original owners stupidity to wear on fans lol.
                  The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by The Old Ballpark View Post
                    Other than the fact that the Marlins' opener and the Ray's first home game ever were complete sell-outs, you are
                    spot on with your analysis.
                    re: Rays - that was a guess. My bad, which I owned up to.
                    re: Marlins - I went with my eyes watching the 5-6th inning of the game on ESPN and the espn.com boxscore
                    Game InformationStadium Marlins Park, Miami, FL
                    Attendance 36,601 (98.9% full) - % is based on regular season capacity
                    Game Time 2:42
                    Weather 79 degrees, clear
                    Wind 11 mph
                    Umpires Home Plate - Ed Rapuano, First Base - Angel Hernandez, Second Base - Laz Diaz, Third Base - Ed Hickox


                    So sue me...

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                    • Originally posted by schnu View Post
                      re: Rays - that was a guess. My bad, which I owned up to.
                      re: Marlins - I went with my eyes watching the 5-6th inning of the game on ESPN and the espn.com boxscore
                      Game InformationStadium Marlins Park, Miami, FL
                      Attendance 36,601 (98.9% full) - % is based on regular season capacity
                      Game Time 2:42
                      Weather 79 degrees, clear
                      Wind 11 mph
                      Umpires Home Plate - Ed Rapuano, First Base - Angel Hernandez, Second Base - Laz Diaz, Third Base - Ed Hickox


                      So sue me...
                      Come on. The game was sold out. I wanted tickets and there weren't any. Let us enjoy at least one day of being proud of our new ballpark
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                      Parks I've visited: 30 for 30, plus 5 closed

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                      • I can't believe people don't understand that this park has some local style and over the top themes because that's what is more likely to draw the crowds. I've heard alot of comments from media types and fans alike about disliking the fish tank, HR sculpture, cheerleaders, gimmicks, etc. IT'S MIAMI! It's not an old school traditional franchise or city. They have their own style and a Latin population. I'm glad they did something that fits them and not a steel and brick ballpark.
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                        • Originally posted by marlins739 View Post
                          Come on. The game was sold out. I wanted tickets and there weren't any. Let us enjoy at least one day of being proud of our new ballpark
                          Like I said, comp tickets (free tickets given out by the team as a gift) will not count towards the paid attendance figure, hence why it doesn't appear on paper that it was a capacity crowd even though in actuality it most certainly was.

                          Look at all the ballpark openings over the past 20 years and I guarantee that nearly all of them won't be listed as being full paid capacity because of the comp ticket factor.

                          The Marlins opening day was a huge ticket sold out long in advance. Believe me on this.
                          Last edited by PeteU; 04-05-2012, 04:06 PM.

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                          • According to some Marlins fans, looks like parking wasn't nearly the problem that some had worried or expected it to be:

                            http://forums.marlinsbaseball.com/to.../page__st__175

                            That's definitely a good sign.

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                            • Originally posted by skobabe8 View Post
                              I can't believe people don't understand that this park has some local style and over the top themes because that's what is more likely to draw the crowds. I've heard alot of comments from media types and fans alike about disliking the fish tank, HR sculpture, cheerleaders, gimmicks, etc. IT'S MIAMI! It's not an old school traditional franchise or city. They have their own style and a Latin population. I'm glad they did something that fits them and not a steel and brick ballpark.
                              yeah, but most of the NEGATIVE comments came from the local (miami) media
                              http://www.miamiherald.com/
                              miami herald/sun-suntinel newspapesr refers to the HR thing as WACKY
                              http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-marlins/
                              Last edited by drdg; 04-05-2012, 04:33 PM.
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                              • Originally posted by drdg View Post
                                yeah, but most of the NEGATIVE comments came from the local (miami) media
                                http://www.miamiherald.com/
                                miami herald newspaper refers to the HR thing as WACKY
                                Well, yeah it's wacky. That's a no-brainer.

                                The question is, will it be endearing to fans despite its wackiness and tackiness? That's something that might take years to answer. But the two concepts aren't mutually exclusive.

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