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  • #16
    I heard someone mention the slider. This pitch will turn young arms into jello. I usually don't reccomend even a curveball to young players. A fastball and change work fine, with less stress to the arm.
    "If Heathcliff Slocumb's a closer, then I'm a chinamen"

    -Harry Carrey

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    • #17
      Here's some advice for your pitches, mechanics, and velocity, Mr.#51

      Sinker/two seamer -- Do you change arm angles on this pitch? If that's the case, then your mechanics could have fouled up during a previous game. But if that's not the problem, then your mechanics are most likely fouled up anyways. A sinker moves alot, and depending on the arm angle, the pitch does different things. A more overhand delivery makes the ball move downward, while a 3/4 or sidearm delivery can give the ball a more sharpened movement away from right handed hitters (for you). I've seen this type of movement from left handers.

      A couple things you can do to help your sinker: Try spreading your index and middle fingers farther apart on the ball. This helped Roberto Hernandez tremendously. Also, Snap your wrist down a little at the release point. This can be very effective if you have a slinging type delivery.

      Splitfinger -- If the ball is breaking too soon, that can mean the grip is too tight. It also explains the slow speed. Your fingers have to be relaxed and used to the abuse rendered by the pitch. The pitch can be cramping, I know, but it can be cured. Hold the ball in the splitfingered grip for an hour a day for about a week...this is the classical way and the most effective remedy. You will get very comfortable with the pitch after this, from transfering the ball to your glove in between pitches, to being able to control it.

      To give the pitch more tumbling action, remove your thumb from supporting the bottom of the ball at the release. If your thumb is to the side instead of underneath of the ball, it lets the bottom fall out better. Use this pitch only on a 0-2, 1-2 for a little while. It sounds like you have to get your mechanics straightened out until you get used to the splitter.

      Curveball -- Yeah, if it's overthrown, the tendency is to hang in the zone. If it's a good pitch for you, then keep it. Lefthanders usually have a really good breaking ball. Don't get happy with it, unless the break is Zito-like.

      Cutter -- No cutter has the sharp breaking action everytime. Don't expect that from it. This is a great pitch in which to pound the inside part of the plate with. Alot of pop-ups are the expected result, or the ball won't make it past 250 ft.

      Which side of the ball do you put the pressure on with this pitch? The left side would be ideal for you.

      Your control problems are either a result of fouled up mechanics, or the ball is being overthrown, and possibly a balance problem. I think you throw too many breaking pitches anyways. Your arsenal is one of a power pitcher. And you don't pitch that hard -- Kind of like Jeff Fassero to name one likeness. I suggest you drop the splitter and work on a change-up. A big curve, sinker/cutter, change is a good combination to work with. The change-up is so underrated I cannot even begin to tell you. Work on one, it will do wonders.

      To get the velocity up, play long ball catch from across the outfield. Try using a weighted baseball, also. Work on your deltoids in the weight room. Don't open up your shoulders on the delivery; stay compact.

      One thing to help you with your mechanics: see where your lead foot lands on the front of the mound. If there are footprints scattered around, that means you're all over the place. Try to step in the same place. And don't let the lead foot point towards the first basemen. :o
      Last edited by Mariner DNA; 08-20-2004, 02:57 AM.
      "If Heathcliff Slocumb's a closer, then I'm a chinamen"

      -Harry Carrey

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      • #18
        cutter

        is a cutter like a fastball that breaks? and also how do you throw it?

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        • #19
          Cutter

          A cutter is basically a slider (which I throw). As you know, a slider is a pitch that starts out like a fastball and breaks at the last second.

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          • #20
            Keys to piching

            This is how to get started:

            1. Work on your mechanics
            2. Try to establish good control so that you can throw not only strikes but smart pitches.
            3. Try to get stronger and get some movement and velocity on your fastball.
            4. Develop a breaking pitch and a straight change (slider, curve, splitter, knuckleball, circle change, etc.)
            5. Learn how to pitch to different hitters in different counts.

            As a breaking pitch, I reccomend throwing a slider. Try to visualize with me here:

            Take the ball so that you are looking at an "n" shape in the seams.
            Put your middle finger on the inside of the seam (either side, I do it on the the right side).
            Take your index finger off the ball but still grip it with all your other fingers.
            Throw it like a fastball.
            It is going to take some time before it starts to break right. To work on it you should play short catch using that grip.
            I hope that it works for you because it does for me. If not, sorry.

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            • #21
              Accuracy

              The most important thing that you could do is to work on your mechnics and your accuracy. Being able to throw like curve and slider can give you more options to get someone out but fastball and change up are the most important. Being able to fool the batters is what make pitchers great.

              If you want to work on your accuracy throw through a tire thats right on home plate........you can also work on accuracy by just throwing to a catcher (repitition) try to pick corners with fastball and change up. Accuracy is the #1 thing you need to work on.

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              • #22
                Please note before you listen to any of my 'advice' that I've got next to no baseball experience - I'm a fan only .

                After YEARS of playing cricket, I'm able to make a cricket ball break (which is just ridiculous when you think of the physics of a cricket ball) both left and right at will, which to say is uncommon is an understatement. As far as throwing what a slider would be (away from a right hander by a right hander, unless I'm wrong, please correct me if I am), I always had to make sure my index finger was directly behind the right side of the ball as it was released and my thumb along the middle of the ball - as you release the ball, because of the way your fingers are set up, your wrist snaps through naturally to create the rotation. The same goes for the one that breaks the other way (a screwball? I don't know, I'm English ), except, you need to get your hand further out in front of you before you and throw it with more fingers in contact with the back of the ball.

                As for actually pitching, if you can get your hands on a cricket ball, do it - it's the same size but heavier than a baseball, which is probably better than trying to get your hands around a softball.

                For anyone who is cricket-minded, I'm a spin bowler, which apart from the 40mph difference in speed, is the closest thing in cricket to a pitcher. You basically work by being able to spin the ball as much as possible along its seam (there's another exercise for you - as a cricket ball has the one seam, straight through the middle, see if you can throw it and keep the seam from 'wobbling', i.e. the ball spinning directly along the seam), by use of either your wrist, fingers or both. As bending the arm is illegal in a bowling action, I know that any break I can put on a pitch is coming from the wrist down, which therefore should mean just trying any of these things SHOULDN'T (but please please please correct me if I'm wrong) mess anything up mechanically.
                Ask me to change my sig! Sig changed 7 times, last change requested by MapleSyrupMan!

                ...Just so you all know, I love being quoted. Even if you're ripping apart my post as awful and stupid, I don't care. Quote me.

                Officially boycotting all threads with steroid talk; let's focus on the good of the game.

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                • #23
                  I am 13 years old im from cochrane ab in canada and i havent found anyone that can help me! i can throw my 4 seamer 65-70mph sidearm. but i also have my change and i teaching myself a knuckle and its working good but when i throw the knuckle i have to come over top. any tips to help throw fastball over top instead of sidearm. iive pitched only 5 games and i already got tendenitis and its the sidearm doing it. plz any suggestions

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                  • #24
                    and im a righty

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by mycykerr
                      I am 13 years old im from cochrane ab in canada and i havent found anyone that can help me! i can throw my 4 seamer 65-70mph sidearm. but i also have my change and i teaching myself a knuckle and its working good but when i throw the knuckle i have to come over top. any tips to help throw fastball over top instead of sidearm. iive pitched only 5 games and i already got tendenitis and its the sidearm doing it. plz any suggestions
                      Three things will help to raise your arm slot...

                      1. Not reverse-rotating your shoulders. Instead, just break your hands so that your pitching arm side hand goes straight back to 2B.

                      2. Tilting your shoulders.

                      3. Pulling your glove into your glove-side pec.
                      Obsessed with Pitching Mechanics.

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