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Pitching velocity gain after puberty

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  • #16
    Depends on a lot of things. Some kids throw 90 at 16 and never improve much on that and there are also kids who throw 75 at 16 and 90 at 19.

    depends on a lot of things:

    -is he done growing?
    - what is his weight and physical maturity (tall and thin leaves more room to improvement than short and stocky)
    - has he lifted significant weights from age 14 to 16 (guy who did just push ups at age 15 has more room to grow than a guy who deadlifts 350 at age 15)
    - how are his mechanics and especially lower body use? If he throws mostly arm there is some mph to gain
    I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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    • #17
      FWIW - at 17 if I thought my son had not hit puberty, I'd concerned with more than his velo

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      • #18
        Originally posted by stkjock View Post
        FWIW - at 17 if I thought my son had not hit puberty, I'd concerned with more than his velo
        My son started puberty a few years ago I just don't think he has finished growing yet. I've talked to several baseball coaches and S&C professionals that say until he completely finishes the maturation process from teenager to adult he will have difficulty putting on muscle mass.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by dominik View Post
          Depends on a lot of things. Some kids throw 90 at 16 and never improve much on that and there are also kids who throw 75 at 16 and 90 at 19.

          depends on a lot of things:

          -is he done growing?

          TBD

          - what is his weight and physical maturity (tall and thin leaves more room to improvement than short and stocky)

          6'2" 165lbs. He is a tall lanky lefty.
          - has he lifted significant weights from age 14 to 16 (guy who did just push ups at age 15 has more room to grow than a guy who deadlifts 350 at age 15)

          He has been in structured S&C programs since middle school. This is one reason I don't think he is finished growing. With as much time as he is spending lifting weights, he should be gaining more muscle mass.

          - how are his mechanics and especially lower body use? If he throws mostly arm there is some mph to gain
          From a statistics perspective his mechanics are very good since his WHIP, ERA, command etc are all very good against strong competition. He just doesn't throw hard. He gets outs with his cutter, change up and 12/6 curveball. I do believe though that he could use his lower body more.

          Does anyone know if there is any kind of online resource that I could plug in his height/weight statistics as well as his current S&C weightlifting ability and generate an expected velocity rate for pitchers with his body type and strength? His velocity is obviously below average, but it would be nice to know if it's primarily because of a mechanics flaw or if it's just because he isn't strong enough.

          Edit. Some of my replies to your questions arw inside the quote. I'm posting from an iPhone and screwed up the reply.

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          • #20
            Why not submit his pitching motion to video analysis to see if it's mechanics?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JettSixty View Post
              Why not submit his pitching motion to video analysis to see if it's mechanics?
              I can take some video of him this weekend using the Hudl Technique IPhone app. I've never tried posted a video or photo to this site. I assume I would need to post the video to YouTube and then link to it here?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Bamadad View Post

                I can take some video of him this weekend using the Hudl Technique IPhone app. I've never tried posted a video or photo to this site. I assume I would need to post the video to YouTube and then link to it here?
                Yes, Youtube is the easiest way to embed a video.

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                • #23
                  I was suggesting have it analyzed by experts. If there's a mechanics problem they can overlay video of where his mechanics should be versus where they are.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by JettSixty View Post
                    I was suggesting have it analyzed by experts. If there's a mechanics problem they can overlay video of where his mechanics should be versus where they are.
                    Who would you recommend?

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                    • #25
                      It's been nine years since my son had it done. A guy from Maryland did it free to promote his new business. He provided the response online. I gave a copy to his high school and travel coach. Rick Peterson was on the bleeding edge of this at the pro level just previous to our offer. I'm sure analysis can be found in any area.

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