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  • WailukuHeights
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    Sorry, don't have a ph# for you Joe.

    I did chat with a Justbats rep specifically about the wood bats for USABat a week or so ago, I quoted the LL write up (copy/paste), he said that according to conversations with their Rawlings and Mizuno reps, who were in their facility a couple of weeks ago, ALL wood bats would need the USABat stamp to be legal for play in those particular leagues.

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  • JoeG
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    Originally posted by JoeG View Post
    I spent a couple days compiling specs on all the bats currently available with the USAbat logo, as well as bats soon coming out for which I had some information. I posted the spreadsheet on my blog. The list can be viewed on the web using a desktop browser (but not a phone) or downloaded:

    https://www.filterjoe.com/2017/09/08...e-usabat-list/

    Note that there is a list on the official USAbat site as well but it doesn't have as many columns of information, and after spending a number of painstaking hours checking everything, I believe the usabat's list is less accurate (i.e. Axe Bat T-ball bat information on usabat site is not accurate):

    https://usabat.com/

    Feedback on anything inaccurate is welcome (please include link to your information source).

    I plan to maintain this list for at least a few months, perhaps longer. The more help I get, the longer I'll maintain the list.
    One thing I'm finding as I continue to refine the list and respond to feedback is that sometimes manufacturers make little mistakes that I end up catching. Axe bat had the wrong model number listed for a Tball bat, which they corrected yesterday when I requested clarification. I just found two seemingly identical Easton bats with 2 different model numbers (YSB18BXHL, YBB18BXHL).

    Does anyone have a good contact number for Easton? Every time I call them to try to get through to a PR or Brand manager type of person, I get send down endless phone trees. I'd appreciate a number of a real person from Easton who knows a lot about the lineup so I can get some of my little detail questions answered.

    Anyone have such a phone number? If you don't want to post it publicly, please send PM.

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  • JoeG
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    Originally posted by riot View Post

    Just now found these guidelines on usabaseball.com which includes information regarding wood bats. I do wonder if any wood bat manufacturer will actually release a 2 5/8" wood bat for youth since those would be allowed now.
    Whether or not wood bats get an official USAbat stamp, wood bat legality varies by local league and specific tournaments. Our particular local PONY league chapter does not allow wood bats, for example. I'm told that the reasoning is fear of wood chips flying out and hitting someone when a bat breaks.

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  • riot
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    Originally posted by riot View Post
    A note about wood bats. Found this on LittleLeague.org.



    I contacted Axe Bats about their wood bat because my son wanted one. Their wood bat is composite, so I contacted them about if it would be stamped with the new standard. As of right now, they are not releasing a wooden bat that would be approved with USA Bat.

    I have no idea if other youth organizations will be allowing wood bats as Little League is or not. It's a bit frustrating that there's nothing to be found regarding approved wood bats except for what I found above.
    Just now found these guidelines on usabaseball.com which includes information regarding wood bats. I do wonder if any wood bat manufacturer will actually release a 2 5/8" wood bat for youth since those would be allowed now.

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  • riot
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    A note about wood bats. Found this on LittleLeague.org.

    27. How will wooden bats for Little League play be effected by the new USA Baseball bat standard?-

    A: Solid, one-piece wood bats that adhere to Little League’s regulations will be allowed for play with or without the USA Baseball mark. Multi-piece wood bats must have the USA Baseball mark to be approved for play. This includes two-piece wood bats, composite wood bats, laminated wood bats, bonded wood bats, bamboo bats, and any wood bat that could be defined as an ‘experimental’ design.
    I contacted Axe Bats about their wood bat because my son wanted one. Their wood bat is composite, so I contacted them about if it would be stamped with the new standard. As of right now, they are not releasing a wooden bat that would be approved with USA Bat.

    I have no idea if other youth organizations will be allowing wood bats as Little League is or not. It's a bit frustrating that there's nothing to be found regarding approved wood bats except for what I found above.

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  • JoeG
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    Originally posted by WailukuHeights View Post
    No sweat Joe, thanks for compiling the list.

    I'm wondering if all those weird low-end Rawlings are the same bats, just reskinned for different retail outlets. For example (hypothetical): Rawlings Machine = WalMart Exclusive, Rawlings Fuel = Dick's Exclusive, etc... same bat, just repainted.

    I can't imagine them spending R&D money in variations of a low-end bat.

    Also one correction, the Anderson -11 is the Centerfire, you have it listed as a Tech.
    Thanks for catching the Centerfire. You could be right about Rawlings and if that turns out to be the case, I'll consolidate the identical bats into one row. Don't have enough information to make that call yet, though.

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  • WailukuHeights
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    No sweat Joe, thanks for compiling the list.

    I'm wondering if all those weird low-end Rawlings are the same bats, just reskinned for different retail outlets. For example (hypothetical): Rawlings Machine = WalMart Exclusive, Rawlings Fuel = Dick's Exclusive, etc... same bat, just repainted.

    I can't imagine them spending R&D money in variations of a low-end bat.

    Also one correction, the Anderson -11 is the Centerfire, you have it listed as a Tech.

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  • JoeG
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    Originally posted by JoeG View Post
    I spent a couple days compiling specs on all the bats currently available with the USAbat logo, as well as bats soon coming out for which I had some information. I posted the spreadsheet on my blog. The list can be viewed on the web using a desktop browser (but not a phone) or downloaded:

    https://www.filterjoe.com/2017/09/08...e-usabat-list/

    Note that there is a list on the official USAbat site as well but it doesn't have as many columns of information, and after spending a number of painstaking hours checking everything, I believe the usabat's list is less accurate (i.e. Axe Bat T-ball bat information on usabat site is not accurate):

    https://usabat.com/

    Feedback on anything inaccurate is welcome (please include link to your information source).

    I plan to maintain this list for at least a few months, perhaps longer. The more help I get, the longer I'll maintain the list.

    Should be pretty easy to maintain short term as there aren't yet a large number of bats. There are literally only 5 manufacturers with bats currently available (Axe, Easton, Louisville Slugger, Mizuno, Rawlings), and two more to be available soon (DeMarini, Franklin Sports).
    Just uploaded an updated list (September 12).

    What I'm finding most difficult in terms of accuracy is that some manufacturers are listing only some (or none) of their new bats on their own sites. When that happens, I may be able to obtain an item number and some specs from a vendor, but what I often don't get is the full range of possible bat lengths. Easton is especially difficult as they have a large product line but many bats are not listed on their site. Though Easton is widely distributed, most vendors do not carry every possible bat length. With every update I've been making adjustments/corrections to the Easton line that I've discovered, but I've likely missed some.

    I would very much appreciate any help on bat lengths I may have missed for Easton or any other manufacturer.

    I appreciate the help I've received so far from WailukuHeights and SouthGaBaseball. Thanks!

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  • JoeG
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    Originally posted by WailukuHeights View Post
    Keep 'em coming.

    I'm posting a revised list to the site every other day . . . you'll see the Centerfire and 2 MOAB's (and whatever else gets added) show up with tomorrow's list revision.

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  • WailukuHeights
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    Another two:

    Rude/MOABs https://rudeamericanusa.com/usa-baseball/

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  • JoeG
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    Originally posted by WailukuHeights View Post
    Anderson Centerfire 2-1/4 (drop 11) https://www.cheapbats.com/shop/2018-...85_99_167.html
    Thanks. Added.

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  • WailukuHeights
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    Anderson Centerfire 2-1/4 (drop 11) https://www.cheapbats.com/shop/2018-...85_99_167.html

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  • Scrub
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    Thanks again, Joe. This is very helpful. I know I've already referenced it several times and I've sent fellow coaches your way to view it as well. Great work!

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  • JoeG
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    Originally posted by JoeG View Post
    I spent a couple days compiling specs on all the bats currently available with the USAbat logo, as well as bats soon coming out for which I had some information. I posted the spreadsheet on my blog. The list can be viewed on the web using a desktop browser (but not a phone) or downloaded:

    https://www.filterjoe.com/2017/09/08...e-usabat-list/

    Note that there is a list on the official USAbat site as well but it doesn't have as many columns of information, and after spending a number of painstaking hours checking everything, I believe the usabat's list is less accurate (i.e. Axe Bat T-ball bat information on usabat site is not accurate):

    https://usabat.com/

    Feedback on anything inaccurate is welcome (please include link to your information source).

    I plan to maintain this list for at least a few months, perhaps longer. The more help I get, the longer I'll maintain the list.
    The official approved bat list on usabat.com list is no longer showing. Probably just a temporary thing . . . but so long as that list is down, the list I put up is the only USAbat list.

    I updated my list yesterday with Anderson and the Easton S750C.

    I also made each 3rd row a light gray color in order to make it easier on the eyes to track one line across the long row.

    I expect this will get updated several times/week over the next couple months as many new bats come onto the market.
    Last edited by JoeG; 09-11-2017, 08:49 AM.

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  • Tman
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    Originally posted by WailukuHeights View Post
    Here's another company to add: Anderson

    https://www.cheapbats.com/shop/2018-...34-p-9333.html
    Interesting. Of course, the draw of the Techzilla was it was the biggest, baddest bat you could buy for youth leagues. Heaviest and also endloaded. I dunno that there's going to be anything special about it anymore.

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