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    Off season has begun. He's in the cages 5 days a week, weight lift twice a week, not a lot of instruction. Once in awhile a coach will give him a tip or two. He uses a 32 inch wood bat thinking it will make him stronger. I got a chance to see him for the last 5 mins and in general it looked like the bat was too heavy for him. Dont mind this much as long as his swing doesn't fall apart. Usually I post and ask for feedback then see if it matches my thinking. This time I'm gonna try putting my thoughts out there to see if others agree or not.

    He still seems very upper body oriented, doesn't engage his rear hip to drive the swing. Still pulling his shoulders to power the swing. Plops his front foot down, I'd rather see him drive into that front leg a little more. Would like to see more tilt, more "sat." Wouldnt mind if he had a wider base when swinging.

    Agree or disagree?

    https://youtu.be/-0YKIOITRt0
    Last edited by pthawaii; 05-07-2018, 11:47 PM.
    Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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    His back knee starts out in the extended position. IOW, it should be extended AFTER his stride not before.

    This is why he can't "engage his rear hip".

    "rather see him drive into that front leg a little more" is opposite of what he needs to do. He needs to 'drive' the rear leg.

    Would like to see more ."sat." Flex/bend the rear leg more in stance. Then coil hip inward as he goes forward - this is 'sat' as you say.

    "Wouldnt mind if he had a wider base". This would actually prevent him from doing what you want.

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    • #3
      Swing looks good nice and fluid. I would only use a heavier bat in conjunction with a lighter bat and his game bat (20% overload/underload), otherwise he is training to reduce his swing speed. Rotate swings of heavy, then light then game bat. Heavy and light bats should be the same length as his game bat.

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      • #4
        I think he will grow into power. How was he hitting with a 32" wood bat? My 13u kid also uses a 32" wood and hits pretty well (line drives) with against decent 13-15u pitching (70s to 80 FBs with breaking stuff).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by songtitle View Post

          "rather see him drive into that front leg a little more" is opposite of what he needs to do. He needs to 'drive' the rear leg.
          By driving the rear hip will tha my result in him driving into the front leg a little more/harder? It's sort of all connected right? Get more "sat", coil better into the rear hip, drive off the rear leg more, more force into the front leg?
          Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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          • #6
            Thoughts of less time in the cage, more time in the weight room and chow line now that it's offseason?

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            • #7
              PT, Exactly......
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              • #8
                Two things
                1. He's not really rotational. His hands get out in front of his rotation because he isn't using his arms/hands to get the barrel flat early. He's trying to throw the barrel to the ball early with his upper body instead.
                2. As someone else said. Don't swing with just a heavy bat. Train with a heavy bat and at least his game weight bat, if you don't have an old -8 sitting around for an underload.

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                • #9

                  Your son is out of sequence. Her starts off pre-coiled. He sways into his rear leg but, never coils around his rear hip. Looks like the front leg/side is 'in charge.'.
                  Last edited by rdbass; 05-09-2018, 03:56 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Have a look at McCutchen. Uses the same open stance style as your son.


                    Last edited by rdbass; 05-08-2018, 03:51 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I agree with all the input. I just noticed he has incorporated something the coaches told him. Before he would stride and bring the bat back towards the catcher, he was stretching the rubberband. But I think the coaches didnt lior the arm bar. I dont like this because I'd rather see the rubberband stretched l, this looks too much all back all forward.

                      Sooo..to recap and keep it simple, coil over rear hip with stride, better turning the barrel , fire the back hip, mix in lighter bat work (hes only doing heavy wood bat which I just found out about, but honestly I would have thought it would force him to use his bottom half more, vs less).
                      Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by flyingmachine3 View Post
                        Thoughts of less time in the cage, more time in the weight room and chow line now that it's offseason?
                        That would be my wish, but that's not it's done with his program. It's taken much of my energy to just get him to not throw in the pen. He weightlifts with me but hes in the cages after school everyday. BP, throwing BP, grounders, etc.
                        Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pthawaii View Post
                          I agree with all the input. I just noticed he has incorporated something the coaches told him. Before he would stride and bring the bat back towards the catcher, he was stretching the rubberband. But I think the coaches didnt lior the arm bar. I dont like this because I'd rather see the rubberband stretched l, this looks too much all back all forward.
                          Don't "stretch the rubberband" but "wind the spring" instead.

                          Or IOWs..."separate" the two halves rotationally (turning the top against the bottom), and not linearly (hands away from the front foot...or straight back before the stride).
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                          • #14
                            Your son stretch is the yellow line...I like it to be the red line...

                            ''separate" the two halves rotationally (turning the top against the bottom''

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                            • #15
                              Instead of starting with his front foot open, he might get a better load if he started with both feet parallel. This could help with his hip load and sequencing....might be worth testing...

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