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  • From AC to just another dad....

    AS practice starts next week and I wont be out on the field helping...and wont be coaching 1st during games. This actually may have been my last season as a baseball coach as I'm not sure I'll be able to offer as much to the 10+ crowd.

    Anyway....
    I try to not coach my son much during the season (I leave it to the other Coaches....he'll listen more to them) but I know it'll be challenging to NOT add in my thoughts on things in the coming weeks.

    Plus...my wife isnt the 'dugout mom' for the 1st time ever so she's also going to be changing her perspective and we'll be together on the "other side".


    Should be interesting...but I dont plan on chasing after anyone with a bat....so I got that going for me!


    Any tips or stories of your exepriences from making the transition to just another dad are welcome!

  • #2
    All I'll say is I sucked at it. I'm still in the dugout for baseball, but when I made the transition to "regular ol' dad" for soccer, I couldn't stop myself from coaching from the sidelines. Like, I was big time annoying (and even I noticed it). But I couldn't stop myself. It really took a lot of practice and training to view the game differently from the other sideline. Aside from just coaching from the stands, I also struggled with the idea that, as a dad, you end up laser focusing on your own kid and EVERY move he makes. As a coach, you're concerned with 11 other kids, so you don't have time to micro-analyze your own. But as sideline dad, you'll have to struggle to resist the micro-analyzing. As I said. I suck at "sideline dad."

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    • #3
      This was my first year as "just a dad" as well. I've coached all three of my kids for the last 12+ years. At the end of last year, I had a bit of a fallout with my assistant coaches and decided I needed to step away. Along with that my son decided he wanted to play for another team. We found a team that has some young but very good coaches that I trust they know what they are doing, so we went with them.
      I was planning on being just a dad in the stands, but they asked me to be score keeper so of course I jumped at the chance, LOL.

      It is hard not to yell out instruction, not just to my own kid, but the others as well. I'm usually good at it, but sometimes I'll yell out for a player to cover a bag or back up another player. I never yell out instruction about how to hit or pitch or whatever. Just in the moment stuff when a play is happening and a player is standing still.
      The coaches haven't said anything to me so I don't think I've over stayed my welcome yet.

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      • #4
        Here is something I learned from my Dad when he transitioned from coaching me: Sit as far away as you possibly can while still being able to see the game ; )I love it when fields have wide open spaces behind the OF fence for my daughter's softball games but I am not sure I will be able to sit there when/if my sons advance to the big field..might have to bring binoculars.
        Last edited by pattar; 05-10-2018, 09:09 AM.

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        • #5
          I officially came off the field during 10ul. We still have our time together out at the field or cages away from the team stuff. It's a fantastic arrangement and one I will cherish.

          Mostly through this site, I have evolved over the last 3-4 years in how I act during games as a parent. I recently found a clip of my son during 8u allstar and I couldn't believe how annoying I was barking out instruction while he was hitting. I'm 180deg from then now and get really annoyed at anyone making any sort of comments during games other than clapping after plays.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scrub View Post
            As a coach, you're concerned with 11 other kids, so you don't have time to micro-analyze your own. But as sideline dad, you'll have to struggle to resist the micro-analyzing.
            This -- 100 percent.

            In the last 7 springs, I've coached/assisted in 6 of them. I much prefer keeping busy. When I'm in the stands, I'm good -- 100-percent silent. And after I don't talk much about the games with my son, either. But I overall find the experience of being a spectator agonizing.

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            • #7
              I transitioned from being a team coach to a sideline parent and was a yeller and screamer. Much to this site I am just trying to enjoy the journey of my son's baseball career, he might quit at 12u or make it to the show, who knows but I want to look back and hopefully him too and have fond memories. Anyway they have since asked me to help with the dugout and keep up with the batting order (hey Mets do you need my resume!). I will take a notepad with me and write info on it for things we need to practice on for my son and a separate one for the team and now I have the coach in mid game ask me to write notes down on stuff he sees.

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              • #8
                I was an AC for many years. But there wasn't much C in AC. I didn't know what I was doing above what my dad taught me but I was hoping to learn from other dads that may have played longer than I did. Well, it turns out they knew less than me and they weren't interested in learning anything new. After a run in with a parent because I yelled at her son (I was talking loudly to be heard), I decided coaching wasn't for me and I kind of stepped back to be a bench coach/scorekeeper.

                I would chat one on one with the kids when they came to the dugout and instruct them what to do if they made a mistake or talk about batting with a plan and stuff like that.

                Eventually, in 13u, my son joined a team that had 3 ACs and I took a permanent seat outside the fence, scoring with my tablet in hand. Occasionally, I would go back on the bench if there were real dugouts but I generally stayed back.

                Watching games behind chainlink is annoying. The support bars are always at the wrong height so you are always bending over or tippy toeing. And they always get in the way at the exact wrong time.

                You will hear the parents a lot more. There are 3 types. The social gabbers. They don't really care about what is happening in the game. They are close to the dugout on the bleachers and they talk about everything other than baseball for the entire 2 hours. Occasionally, they shout out to their kid with random support, "C'mon johnny!" but whenever something happens in the game, the first thing out of their mouth is, "What happened?"

                Next are the analytical loaners. They are usually behind the backstop or bleachers. They are generally quiet and are only vocal about things involving their own kid. Some will go as far as praising their own kid for being involved in a great play made by another player. Timmy makes an amazing ESPN play of the day diving grab at F6 and throws out the runner by a step. Loaner guy, the father of Billy who plays F3, yells, "Way to hold on to the ball, Billy!"

                Finally, you have the ragers. These people tend to sit way down the foul line. These people have problems self censoring. They will bitch about everything and feed off of each other. if you do have a parent get ejected, it is almost always one of these people. These people make ACs chase them down with a bat.

                Finally 2, no one outside of the fence knows anything about the rules. Some people are open to learning when something happens that they don't understand but others insist that they are right and that they have read all of the rules and there is no possible way they could be wrong and that the coach should protest and the umpire should be banned from ever umping again and that we should be awarded the league championship because that last pitch was really a 1/2 inch outside and their son walked a kid.

                Finally Finally 2, no one ever knows the score, how many outs, or the count. Be nice to your scorer and don't ask what the score is more than once a minute.

                Have fun being a parent!
                Last edited by queue; 05-10-2018, 10:08 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by queue View Post



                  Finally, you have the ragers. These people tend to sit way down the foul line. These people have problems self censoring. They will bitch about everything and feed off of each other. if you do have a parent get ejected, it is almost always one of these people. These people make ACs chase them down with a bat.
                  Or maybe they just don't want to be able hear parent type 1 or 2.. ; )

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                  • #10
                    Only say the following phrases 'good job', 'good play', 'good hit','good pitch', 'good game'. There's not much reason to say anything else while watching a game.
                    efastball.com - hitting and pitching fact checker

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pattar View Post

                      Or maybe they just don't want to be able hear parent type 1 or 2.. ; )
                      yeah, because they will start raging if they do..

                      ; p

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by queue View Post

                        yeah, because they will start raging if they do..

                        ; p

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                        • #13
                          efastball.com - hitting and pitching fact checker

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                          • #14
                            Interesting that I am the opposite. Never coached baseball until last year (11U), and now am doing it again at 12U. I also just noticed that the head and assistant coach for my son from 8U are both just sideline parents. I really like coaching as long as there is another who will hold my kid accountable and respected by me and my kid.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by songtitle View Post
                              Only say the following phrases 'good job', 'good play', 'good hit','good pitch', 'good game'. There's not much reason to say anything else while watching a game.
                              I've heard this before.
                              Gotta say I disagree....sports have spectators.
                              Players need to learn to deal with them....the opposing fans surely aren't going to be quiet.

                              I'm not going to position players or provide batting instruction but I think the effort by some coaches to have the fans as silent spectators in misplaced.

                              Theres a happy medium in there somewhere IMO

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