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  • USA Baseball National Team Identification Series

    First of all, you should know that I'm one of those dads that's all about getting better, but very blind to what's going outside of training. I think those days will need to end soon as my son continues to ask me about stuff like this NTIS NorthWest Round 1 Tryouts.

    http://northwest.usabaseballntis.com...west-schedule/

    It's $150 for the 2 day tryout. It appears if you get chosen they go to Cary, NC to compete.
    • The tryout is for USA Baseball’s NATIONAL TEAMS via an event called the NATIONAL TEAM IDENTIFICATION SERIES
    • Players tryout in their own region and then are selected for 16 different regional teams from around the country to go to the NATIONAL TRAINING CENTER in Cary, NC in August
    • In Cary, NC, the regional teams play against each other and players are selected for US NATIONAL TEAMS for the summer of 2019

    Of course, to my son it sounds like fun. Travel, get tested against the best, see what he can achieve, etc. To me, it sounds like a potential money grab. Here are my questions for those that have had kids attend this before.

    1. Do you get any sort of written assessment after the 2 day tryouts? Do they get any useful instruction or is it really all tryout?
    2. What is the cost of the NC trip?
    3. What does it mean to make the US National team? Would it be a cool experience and honor?

    Any other insight or advice?
    Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

  • #2
    If you think your kid is one of the 50 or so best kids in the country it's awesome, fantastic, etc. Otherwise, it's a way to pay for the US National team to play in some foreign country. It's essentially the Olympics for youth baseball. (Better than LLWS)
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    • #3
      My son participated in the 13u NTIS tryout last Friday night. Lots of good players there. One of the 14u kids had been in the program the last 3 years and crushed the ball in his BP turns.

      The tryout is only a one day tryout. It looks like you guys have two separate days at the same field. The day after our tryout, they held another one just down the freeway. The guy ran our tryout did do some instruction during the tryout. Not a bunch but there was some. There was no written assessment after it was done.

      The tryout went like this:

      1) BP - 2 rounds of 10 cuts for each player
      2) 30 yard dash for time
      2) OFers - all were positioned in RF. They had the OFers throw to third with no cut offs, about 5 throws each and then throw to home with no cut off, about 5 throws each. Then they hit a couple of balls down the right field line and had them cut it off and turn and throw to third as fast as they could.
      3) IFers - all were positioned at SS. 3 balls hit right at them, 3 backhands, 3 to their left (up the middle), and then a slow chopper and throw to 1B. The 1B tried out on their own. They field 3 balls right at them and made the throw to 2b. Then they had to hold a runner on, and turn a 3-6-3 DP. Then I believe they had to cover a bunt.
      4) catchers - Timed throws to 2b. Timed throws to 3b. Then they had to block a ball and throw to second. Block a ball and throw to 3b. Then pop fly to the catcher.
      5) pitchers - threw 10-15 pitches, about 10 FB and 5 offspeed.

      Tryout took about 3.5 hours in total. The person running the tryout then talked to all the parents at the end and explained the process.

      If selected to your regional team, the cost is $300 to play in the tournament at the USA Baseball facilities. You do have to pay for your airfare and hotel also.

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      • #4
        Oh, forgot to mention, the rules say the players have to use wood or BBCOR during the tryout. Don’t pay any attention to that. Only 3 kids followed that rule, one of the 11 year olds used wood and my son and his friend used BBCOR. Everyone else were using their USSSA bats. The guy running the tryout said he knew kids were using whatever bats and that is why he was not paying attention to where the ball went. He said he was more interested in the swing and if the player had mechanics that could translate to the next level and keep building on.

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        • #5
          my son's friend, a 2020, played freshman ball for his HS (a HS where freshmen only play freshman ball). he was on the 15u national team and went off last summer. early committed to UCLA before he stepped foot on a varsity game (or JV for that matter). fwiw, he raked in varsity this spring in a tough league, so it's not like he is a flash in the pan. for the top players, it's a way to get noticed.

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          • #6
            Got a chance to see this young man in the cage last year as a 13U, he had played the year before on Team USA as a 12U...here's what he did after he came back from Team USA....

            He plays 18U as a 13U, and does things like this...

            At 13 he also goes yard on HS fields vs. 18U as well...
            If you believe your son would match up well with or against this kind of player well then I'd say the $150 would be a good investment.

            The other Team USA 12U player that comes to mind is this young man....
            14wdfrs.gif
            ....who's now an MiLBer in the Giants organization

            Pretty good competition is all I'm trying to point out. You'll have to make your own assessment of the value, and affordability of your son's potential of playing with players very similar to these.
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            • #7
              In my area, there were 2 tryouts until Cary. It is a money maker for USA Baseball and it's affiliates. Unless your kid is a top 100 player in the states it is very difficult to get selected for the 12U or 15U teams that travel to play in Copabe or the Asian tourney. With that said if you want your kid exposed to the best players accross the 50 states and experience some great competitve baseball in a beautiful field with trackman metrics (think of a baseball fantasy camp) then yes go for it. My kid loved it. We toured NC State, UNC and Duke (not enough time for the other colleges), took some pics and bought swag. My kid missed out on Cooperstown due to a scheduling conflict and he did not want to guest play, so this was his 4 day trip. I enjpyed it a lot, despite the hawt NC heat...sorry this was 13U
              Last edited by sparkny2; 05-15-2018, 09:41 AM.

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              • #8
                Thanks everyone, you actually opened my eyes to possibly sending him. If I'm being honest, I think he has a chance to make the trip to NC, however, I think his chance to make the national team is slim to none. The funny thing is, every time I tell him "slim to none" he finds a way to make me wrong (although I don't think so this time). For example, he was telling me he needed a wood bat and I kept telling him he's years away from needing a wood bat. All of a sudden, he's going to start 19U wood bat league this coming weekend and now I'm power shopping for a wood bat lol.
                Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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                • #9
                  I think even making the region team and going to NC would be a great experience. Getting to play with some really good ballplayers from all over the country and a really nice facility. My son had a really good tryout, but still told him not to get his hopes up. The South Texas region is all of Texas south of Waco and also includes the entire state of Louisiana. So lots of good talent in those areas. The guy who ran out tryout said that the strongest regions are always SoCal, SoTexas and Florida, which is to be expected since they baseball there 365 days a year. If you look at the rosters of the different USA national teams, I would say 70% of the teams are made up of kids from California. I expected to see more kids from Texas and Florida, but it was a sprinkling of those states compared to the California representation.

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                  • #10
                    A kid on my younger son’s 12u team made the regional team. He was the best player on their travel team, but not a standout eye-catching talent.

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                    • #11
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mudvnine View Post
                        Got a chance to see this young man in the cage last year as a 13U, he had played the year before on Team USA as a 12U...here's what he did after he came back from Team USA....

                        He plays 18U as a 13U, and does things like this...

                        At 13 he also goes yard on HS fields vs. 18U as well...
                        If you believe your son would match up well with or against this kind of player well then I'd say the $150 would be a good investment.

                        The other Team USA 12U player that comes to mind is this young man....
                        14wdfrs.gif
                        ....who's now an MiLBer in the Giants organization

                        Pretty good competition is all I'm trying to point out. You'll have to make your own assessment of the value, and affordability of your son's potential of playing with players very similar to these.
                        The So Cal team was very impressive and they had a girl player who still shined with all that deep talent on that roster. The Sw team was also lights out. It will be great to see how these kids do in hS college or beyond

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Colonel21 View Post
                          My son participated in the 13u NTIS tryout last Friday night. Lots of good players there. One of the 14u kids had been in the program the last 3 years and crushed the ball in his BP turns.

                          The tryout is only a one day tryout. It looks like you guys have two separate days at the same field. The day after our tryout, they held another one just down the freeway. The guy ran our tryout did do some instruction during the tryout. Not a bunch but there was some. There was no written assessment after it was done.

                          The tryout went like this:

                          1) BP - 2 rounds of 10 cuts for each player
                          2) 30 yard dash for time
                          2) OFers - all were positioned in RF. They had the OFers throw to third with no cut offs, about 5 throws each and then throw to home with no cut off, about 5 throws each. Then they hit a couple of balls down the right field line and had them cut it off and turn and throw to third as fast as they could.
                          3) IFers - all were positioned at SS. 3 balls hit right at them, 3 backhands, 3 to their left (up the middle), and then a slow chopper and throw to 1B. The 1B tried out on their own. They field 3 balls right at them and made the throw to 2b. Then they had to hold a runner on, and turn a 3-6-3 DP. Then I believe they had to cover a bunt.
                          4) catchers - Timed throws to 2b. Timed throws to 3b. Then they had to block a ball and throw to second. Block a ball and throw to 3b. Then pop fly to the catcher.
                          5) pitchers - threw 10-15 pitches, about 10 FB and 5 offspeed.

                          Tryout took about 3.5 hours in total. The person running the tryout then talked to all the parents at the end and explained the process.

                          If selected to your regional team, the cost is $300 to play in the tournament at the USA Baseball facilities. You do have to pay for your airfare and hotel also.
                          We had the same format as well

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pthawaii View Post
                            Thanks everyone, you actually opened my eyes to possibly sending him. If I'm being honest, I think he has a chance to make the trip to NC, however, I think his chance to make the national team is slim to none. The funny thing is, every time I tell him "slim to none" he finds a way to make me wrong (although I don't think so this time). For example, he was telling me he needed a wood bat and I kept telling him he's years away from needing a wood bat. All of a sudden, he's going to start 19U wood bat league this coming weekend and now I'm power shopping for a wood bat lol.
                            You and your boy wont be disaapointed with the trip to the mainland for this experience. Admittedly it is a lot of coin, but I would imagine all vacays leaving the 50th state would be a lot of coin. Regarding wood bats, I learned that even they can lose their "pop".

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                            • #15
                              Also, the Cary event may conflict with school as it is late August for 14u. Last year, it was in July and they provided a letter to give to the school if they missed days. I laffed it off, but now I get it, my kid will not be atteding the 14u ntis as missing his first days of HS will be grounds for a divorce and possibly murder by raging spouse

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