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  • #16
    I agree with others that said it's a money making opportunity for the most part.I don't mind people trying to make money, but it seems like they carry too many kids for too long. That said, I've never done it with either of my kids. I think my youngest could get pretty far, but isn't good enough to make the team. Not worth the money in traveling, and missing other things to attend.

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    • #17
      There's a lot of variations of these, right? We've been to quite a few tournaments (at the 9-11U level mind you) where they'd go around handing out two or three "Golden Ticket" invites (or some other variation) to every team for a shot at the National Team. We'd always just chuck them (especially after seeing a facebook post of three players from, at the time, maybe the crappiest team in Majors USSSA "proudly representing by making the National team") figuring they were con jobs and... come on, 9-11U international competition? Slow your roll.

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      • #18
        This is no different than the "special and exclusive" PG invites. It is a good experience if you have the disposable $$

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        • #19
          We need a thread just devoted to the broader topic, what to attend and what not to attend. The way I see it if you want your child to develop, see great competition and get exposure, there are probably a handful of events that are worth attending. Maybe break it down to 1. Should go if can get invited, 2. Should/Nice to go if you can afford 3. Nice to go if you are wealthy 4. Dont do it, no matter how rich you are ur tossing money down the drain. The only exposure my son has had is LL all stars and cal Ripken playoffs both of which out team never got behind playing in state. At some point I'll have to let him out to go have some experiences under the #2 category. It sounds like the NTIS fits that category to some degree. We found out some players that had gone before from our state, all really good legit players.
          Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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          • #20
            There are too many to list and what one person thinks is a waste of money, others think 'why not?'

            If you think you are getting value for your money and you can do it, go for it. It won't hurt anything and if your family likes to travel to watch baseball, even better.

            My son is playing on a 17u showcase/tournament team this summer. It will be a next experience for us having finished 14u last year. The summer is full of showcase tourneys so exposure isn't a problem. I am not sure how exposure for the later ages work out there in paradise so maybe doing things like NTIS is worth it.

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            • #21
              Can we all agree 9U-11U (at least) is a waste of money?

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              • #22
                I wouldn't call any game where your kid is getting good experience playing against strong competition as a waste of money. It is a waste if your intent is to get exposure to scouts and recruiters.

                Personally, I wouldn't do it (even as late as 14u) simply because there are a ton of ways to play high level competition without having to pay big fees. However, I live in the burbs of a major city. Things might be different in other areas, especially somewhere like hawaii where all you have is what is there.

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                • #23
                  As far as what to do, and what not to do where, and when....might I suggest that before one goes, and starts paying a bunch of money to test the waters of competition out on the road...maybe making the HS varsity team should be your first test of the competition, and move on from there when you're tearing up that local league or level of play.

                  I had sophomore kids back in the day paying $300/month to play on some academy program's "B" or "C" team in order to "face top competition", when they weren't even starters on our HS's JV team, thinking that that was somehow going to make them better or impress us just by saying they were "playing for ABD" at the time (who has since fallen off it prominence following the untimely death of its founder, and head coach Mike Spiers in 2013).
                  In memory of "Catchingcoach" - Dave Weaver: February 28, 1955 - June 17, 2011

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mudvnine View Post
                    As far as what to do, and what not to do where, and when....might I suggest that before one goes, and starts paying a bunch of money to test the waters of competition out on the road...maybe making the HS varsity team should be your first test of the competition, and move on from there when you're tearing up that local league or level of play.
                    30 years ago a bucket of balls 3/4 of which you found in the woods and friend to throw/hit fungoes to you was pretty cheap. Only cost was when your friend stopped answer his phone during the hours you called to hit because he was tired of pitching to you ; ) I went to one camp growing up..I was so excited because it was going to be at McCoy stadium (home of PawSox). Went the first day, ended up with the flu and missed the rest of the camp. Hope my old man got a refund..never asked him.

                    In all seriousness, playing against good competition is fun as it tests you and kind of gives you a feel for where you are but to me it would seem to be more rewarding when you earned
                    your way there (not that the OP's kid hasn't earned it). In other words when I played Pony, HS,Legion etc. if you kept winning(all stars in Pony, playoffs for HS/Legion) you would progressively play against better competition. I know that isn't necessarily how things are done anymore for a lot of stuff and I am just being an old fogey but so be it ; ) I also was no phenom growing up so there is that
                    Last edited by pattar; 05-17-2018, 11:40 AM.

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                    • #25
                      I suppose it comes down to how much disposable income a family has to spend on this sort of thing. My son will face tough competition this summer playing up in age in a wood bat league. Its gonna be tough. On a separate note, he wants to travel and play against top 14 yo's. So I have to decide what is a reasonable way to do that, or if there are better ways to do it. Yep, expensive but are there less expensive options given he isn't on a team that travels to the mainland for tournaments?
                      Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pthawaii View Post
                        I suppose it comes down to how much disposable income a family has to spend on this sort of thing. My son will face tough competition this summer playing up in age in a wood bat league. Its gonna be tough. On a separate note, he wants to travel and play against top 14 yo's. So I have to decide what is a reasonable way to do that, or if there are better ways to do it. Yep, expensive but are there less expensive options given he isn't on a team that travels to the mainland for tournaments?
                        an alumnus from your son's HS has a program up here in Norcal and I've heard he's trying to/has put together teams in HI. is joining one of his teams an option? I spoke with one of his coaches last weekend and he was under the impression that they were planning on playing some events in CA and other western states.

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                        • #27
                          He put together a team that will play in a tournament in Arizona that will qualify players for the USA National team. He is also putting on the NTIS tryouts, 2 days at his school baseball field. So he's got some teammates that are going. We didnt do the arizona team, just seemed like a team out together for a tourney in Arizona. The NTIS sounds like more of a selection process where we would be going up and playing with some of the top 14 yo in the state. Also the arizona tourney used may 1 birthdate cut off and the NTIS uses calendar year. The latter works better for my son.
                          Never played baseball, just a dad of someone that loves to play. So take any advice I post with a grain of salt.

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                          • #28
                            Found out that my son made the South Texas NTIS team. It is players from Texas south of Waco and all of Louisiana. We are headed to the USA Baseball facility in North Carolina on August 8th.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Colonel21 View Post
                              Found out that my son made the South Texas NTIS team. It is players from Texas south of Waco and all of Louisiana. We are headed to the USA Baseball facility in North Carolina on August 8th.
                              Best of luck. Hope it's a great experience.
                              "Whata crowd, whata crowd! I tell ya, I'm all right now but last week I was in rough shape..."

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Colonel21 View Post
                                Found out that my son made the South Texas NTIS team. It is players from Texas south of Waco and all of Louisiana. We are headed to the USA Baseball facility in North Carolina on August 8th.
                                Congrats Col! How many players are on that roster?

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