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  • #31
    The legend of JettSixty continues to grow.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by flyingmachine3 View Post
      The legend of JettSixty continues to grow.
      It was such a pleasure to grow up being abused by my mother. I was disciplined for doing anything non athletic lefthanded.

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      • #33
        I've posted this before, so...

        Sooo... My kid was a really good SS, 3B and 1B... Until he got to HS...

        In Freshman Fall Varsity season, Coach mainly played him at SS & 3B in practice and every game, until the last game... He stuck him out in LF... He had never played an inning of outfield ever, so it was slightly concerning, since he also had never even practiced taking fly balls or anything... But he did well and even threw out a runner at home who was tagging up... He was told at the end of that game that he would be the starting LF'er for the Spring season, so start shagging balls to get ready... So over the Christmas break I got him a OF glove and I hit probably 1000 or more fly balls to him at the field... There was a senior playing 3B, so no problem,...

        So, we start the season and 3 games in, Coach decides that he's changing the kid to 2B (so had to buy him another glove), but he's really never played there before and has not practiced at all, so he doesn't know all the nuances to the position... He played about a week there and then during a game where we were losing like 12-0, bases-loaded, he charged a slow-roller and the ball hopped up and hit the heel of his glove and everyone safe, next play Coach immediately moved him back to LF... (1-error in a week in a blowout, and he was gone... pretty harsh)...

        Forgot to mention... this entire time PG has him ranked like in the top 5 Third-Basemen in the 2016 class for Florida...

        So he played LF for the rest of the season, and got somewhat serviceable out there, learning on the fly...

        Sophomore season, he's set to be the starting 3B, when we get a Senior transfer in and Coach see's that the kid cannot play LF, so he moves my kid back out to LF, and he plays there the entire year except for one game at 1B because of a suspension... Summer league team plays in in LF because that's where the HC head coach tells the team to play him there...

        Junior Fall season he plays the entire Fall at SS, because our Senior SS is the #1 ranked player in the nation and is taking the Fall off to weightlift and do workouts with MLB clubs... Kid does GREAT at SS and Coach tags him as the backup, and says he will be the starting 3B... We then get another Senior transfer who returned back to our school, and he out hits everyone (including the #3 overall pick in the 2016 MLB draft) and kicked my kid back out to LF... Summer league team plays in in LF because that's where the HC head coach tells the team to play him there...

        Kid commits the Oklahoma State as a 3B...

        Senior season comes around and we have a new HC... He says my kid will be his starting 1B... I'm like, OK whatever... Even though he has literally played only 1 game at 1B in the last 4-years and is a D-1 commit, and is STILL ranked within the top-ten 3B in FL... Kid plays EVERY game at 1B for his Senior season...

        At Oklahoma State during Fall games he mainly plays 3B, but the position is manned by All-Big-12 1st team Garrett Benge, who is not going anywhere and 1B is being manned by the Reigning Big-12 HR & RBI Champ... So he's also not going anywhere... Kid has a great Fall, but he's red-shirted...

        Currently at St. Petersburg State College he's playing 3B...

        So that's my story...
        I don't like my balls to smell like pickles.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Bolts-Baseball View Post
          I've posted this before, so...

          Sooo... My kid was a really good SS, 3B and 1B... Until he got to HS...

          In Freshman Fall Varsity season, Coach mainly played him at SS & 3B in practice and every game, until the last game... He stuck him out in LF... He had never played an inning of outfield ever, so it was slightly concerning, since he also had never even practiced taking fly balls or anything... But he did well and even threw out a runner at home who was tagging up... He was told at the end of that game that he would be the starting LF'er for the Spring season, so start shagging balls to get ready... So over the Christmas break I got him a OF glove and I hit probably 1000 or more fly balls to him at the field... There was a senior playing 3B, so no problem,...

          So, we start the season and 3 games in, Coach decides that he's changing the kid to 2B (so had to buy him another glove), but he's really never played there before and has not practiced at all, so he doesn't know all the nuances to the position... He played about a week there and then during a game where we were losing like 12-0, bases-loaded, he charged a slow-roller and the ball hopped up and hit the heel of his glove and everyone safe, next play Coach immediately moved him back to LF... (1-error in a week in a blowout, and he was gone... pretty harsh)...

          Forgot to mention... this entire time PG has him ranked like in the top 5 Third-Basemen in the 2016 class for Florida...

          So he played LF for the rest of the season, and got somewhat serviceable out there, learning on the fly...

          Sophomore season, he's set to be the starting 3B, when we get a Senior transfer in and Coach see's that the kid cannot play LF, so he moves my kid back out to LF, and he plays there the entire year except for one game at 1B because of a suspension... Summer league team plays in in LF because that's where the HC head coach tells the team to play him there...

          Junior Fall season he plays the entire Fall at SS, because our Senior SS is the #1 ranked player in the nation and is taking the Fall off to weightlift and do workouts with MLB clubs... Kid does GREAT at SS and Coach tags him as the backup, and says he will be the starting 3B... We then get another Senior transfer who returned back to our school, and he out hits everyone (including the #3 overall pick in the 2016 MLB draft) and kicked my kid back out to LF... Summer league team plays in in LF because that's where the HC head coach tells the team to play him there...

          Kid commits the Oklahoma State as a 3B...

          Senior season comes around and we have a new HC... He says my kid will be his starting 1B... I'm like, OK whatever... Even though he has literally played only 1 game at 1B in the last 4-years and is a D-1 commit, and is STILL ranked within the top-ten 3B in FL... Kid plays EVERY game at 1B for his Senior season...

          At Oklahoma State during Fall games he mainly plays 3B, but the position is manned by All-Big-12 1st team Garrett Benge, who is not going anywhere and 1B is being manned by the Reigning Big-12 HR & RBI Champ... So he's also not going anywhere... Kid has a great Fall, but he's red-shirted...

          Currently at St. Petersburg State College he's playing 3B...

          So that's my story...
          That is a bizarre but interesting story. Being a small lefty, and not an elite-level athlete, my son had already started getting pigeon-holed at the age of 8, and definitely by age 10, as pitcher or right field - maybe 1B on occasion. I have thought this a disadvantage for so many years as he gets more bench time for the lack of positional flexibility (even though he's a reasonably good catcher in rec league, summer coaches did not use him that way).

          But from your story, it sounds like it will be a relief in HS as suddenly his role will be obvious and his skills honed at pitcher, 1B, and right field will serve him well.

          Pitching will be his main thing. His hitting will have to improve if he also wants to see play at RF.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Bolts-Baseball View Post
            I've posted this before, so...

            Sooo... My kid was a really good SS, 3B and 1B... Until he got to HS...

            In Freshman Fall Varsity season, Coach mainly played him at SS & 3B in practice and every game, until the last game... He stuck him out in LF... He had never played an inning of outfield ever, so it was slightly concerning, since he also had never even practiced taking fly balls or anything... But he did well and even threw out a runner at home who was tagging up... He was told at the end of that game that he would be the starting LF'er for the Spring season, so start shagging balls to get ready... So over the Christmas break I got him a OF glove and I hit probably 1000 or more fly balls to him at the field... There was a senior playing 3B, so no problem,...

            So, we start the season and 3 games in, Coach decides that he's changing the kid to 2B (so had to buy him another glove), but he's really never played there before and has not practiced at all, so he doesn't know all the nuances to the position... He played about a week there and then during a game where we were losing like 12-0, bases-loaded, he charged a slow-roller and the ball hopped up and hit the heel of his glove and everyone safe, next play Coach immediately moved him back to LF... (1-error in a week in a blowout, and he was gone... pretty harsh)...

            Forgot to mention... this entire time PG has him ranked like in the top 5 Third-Basemen in the 2016 class for Florida...

            So he played LF for the rest of the season, and got somewhat serviceable out there, learning on the fly...

            Sophomore season, he's set to be the starting 3B, when we get a Senior transfer in and Coach see's that the kid cannot play LF, so he moves my kid back out to LF, and he plays there the entire year except for one game at 1B because of a suspension... Summer league team plays in in LF because that's where the HC head coach tells the team to play him there...

            Junior Fall season he plays the entire Fall at SS, because our Senior SS is the #1 ranked player in the nation and is taking the Fall off to weightlift and do workouts with MLB clubs... Kid does GREAT at SS and Coach tags him as the backup, and says he will be the starting 3B... We then get another Senior transfer who returned back to our school, and he out hits everyone (including the #3 overall pick in the 2016 MLB draft) and kicked my kid back out to LF... Summer league team plays in in LF because that's where the HC head coach tells the team to play him there...

            Kid commits the Oklahoma State as a 3B...

            Senior season comes around and we have a new HC... He says my kid will be his starting 1B... I'm like, OK whatever... Even though he has literally played only 1 game at 1B in the last 4-years and is a D-1 commit, and is STILL ranked within the top-ten 3B in FL... Kid plays EVERY game at 1B for his Senior season...

            At Oklahoma State during Fall games he mainly plays 3B, but the position is manned by All-Big-12 1st team Garrett Benge, who is not going anywhere and 1B is being manned by the Reigning Big-12 HR & RBI Champ... So he's also not going anywhere... Kid has a great Fall, but he's red-shirted...

            Currently at St. Petersburg State College he's playing 3B...

            So that's my story...
            He followed his guiding star and found third. What happens next year?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by JettSixty View Post

              He followed his guiding star and found third. What happens next year?
              I have no idea... I wish I knew...
              I don't like my balls to smell like pickles.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JettSixty View Post

                I have a story relating to your comment. I discovered my LL assistant coach played up to AAA ball. It turned out he had roomed with one of my best friends and Legion teammate for three years in the minors. When I called my friend to tell him the first thing he asked about my assistant, “Is he as lefthanded as ever?”

                Growing up my mother taped my fingers on my left hand together. She was not going to allow me to be lefthanded. I do every day things ambidextrously with a tendency to go right handed. I’m left handed athletically. It freaked people out to see me change hands writing on a board in business presentations. I wrote with whichever had me blocking the board the least. I do legal signatures right handed.
                My grandfather on my father's side was born a lefty. Not sure when he was born? But, I am guessing it was around 1916, maybe a bit earlier? They literally tied his left hand behind his back and forced him to do everything right handed as a kid. The "logic" back then was that being lefty was a sign of the devil. Thank goodness we have evolved a bit in the last 100 years or so.
                Coaching experience: Managed 5 Little League teams and coached on 4 others. So, what do I know?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Francis7 View Post

                  My grandfather on my father's side was born a lefty. Not sure when he was born? But, I am guessing it was around 1916, maybe a bit earlier? They literally tied his left hand behind his back and forced him to do everything right handed as a kid. The "logic" back then was that being lefty was a sign of the devil. Thank goodness we have evolved a bit in the last 100 years or so.
                  When I was a kid nothing was designed for lefthanded kids. There was no such thing as a lefthanded desk. Teachers didn’t know how to teach lefties to write. Learning was more challenging for lefties. Lefties were more likely to be dyslexic. Teachers sometimes defaulied to claiming the student wasn’t very bright.

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                  • #39
                    I use to be against hs, college players pitching, and hitting. To make it to the pro evel; my theory is, you should spend your time focusing on your biggest strength. Shohei Ohtani seems to have proving me wrong!

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by PawtucketRedSox4Eva View Post
                      I use to be against hs, college players pitching, and hitting. To make it to the pro evel; my theory is, you should spend your time focusing on your biggest strength. Shohei Ohtani seems to have proving me wrong!
                      High school players shouldn’t pitch and hit on the one in a thousand chance they become a MLBer? Usually when a pitcher doesn’t hit in high school it’s because they can’t hit.

                      The jury is still out on Ontani. Two months doesn’t make a career. Now he’s injured pitching and can’t hit. Or did he get injured hitting and can’t pitch?

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                      • #41
                        Good point, it's better to be great at one position; than average at multiple.

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