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    Just registered for this site and have been lurking around. My so has been in rec league since T-Ball. He has always been a travel caliber player but anxiety held him back. So, we just let him dominate rec league ball. Fast forward to this year...He is playing rec league and part-time travel for the first time. He has always just gotten by on athleticism and size with his long swing. At the travel level, he is an Elite pitcher and corner infielder, but a “B” hitter...maybe. I don’t think that I am qualified or that he would take to my coaching to try to correct his “long swing/bat drag” etc. He is trying out for full time travel in a couple of weeks, and I fear that he will be exposed. Also, I worry if I should even tinker with it so close to tryouts. I have had him take lessons from the same guy for a couple years but we aren’t consistent enough with them, and I’m not happy with him anyway. Any swing coaches in the North Suburban Chicago area that can help with some tweaks to help him? Thanks in advance and sorry if this is posted in the wrong area.

  • #2
    Here are a couple of things that most youth hitters need help with.

    1. Coil inward as he strides forward see Issue#2, Post#1 only Secret youth hitting drill - guaranteed MLB draft
    (dry swings in front of a mirror for a couple weeks to learn, then for the rest of his life)

    2. Make sure he strides on every pitch (not just when he thinks it's a strike). Hold the ball randomly in the cage (for the rest of his life).

    3. Pull the back elbow back like a bow. As he coils in and strides froward, it doesn't go 'behind' his back, it should point toward the catcher.


    Fix these 3 things, then see where he is. These are free, they will fix most kids.

    Yet 99% of the Dads won't do it. They will buy a few $300 bats, and a $2000 cage, and $thousands of lessons.
    Last edited by songtitle; 07-09-2018, 07:06 PM.
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    • #3
      You’re not going to work miracles on his swing in two weeks before the travel tryout. It takes weeks to change a swing. Encourage him to do his best. If he fails your immediate safety net is to offer to start working on changing his swing for next year’s tryout.

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      • #4
        As mentioned, you're not going to work miracles in two wks. You may see improvement with the work or during BP, but he will likely revert to his ingrained mechanics when stressed. Then again, I don't see that you have much to lose. A couple thousand swings done correctly in the next two wks should yield some gains. Start with slow swings to get the pattern correct.

        My son has been fighting this evil scourge for about three years. His problem has been that his athleticism has always been able to get him past this mechanical flaw. He is finally making progress in eliminating BD. His HS coaches have really focused on not letting the back elbow "leak." That is, don't let it begin to fall ANY until the front heal hits the ground. Their focus with him is drawing the bow and pointing the knob at the catcher.

        OP, download Coaches Eye... it's free and lets you move frame by frame through a swing.

        I mentioned my son's experience to share with you two points-

        1 There's a huge wealth of knowledge here
        2 The light has to come on for your son or your wasting time
        Put your junk in your pocket!

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        • #5
          Also find a pro swing that your boy can emulate. Monkey see monkey do the pattern in slow mo.

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          • #6
            Two things popped out to me:

            If he is “elite” level pitching, teams will find him, so he has all the time in the world to fix the swing.

            No “tweaks” will help. Would need to see video of several game swings to get hitting-by-committee input here.

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            • #7
              Good chance it will be BP from a coach to see his swing during tryouts. Don't try to tweak much right now, but help throw similar BP to him and tell him to have high intent to do damage. If he can pitch, has a strong arm, looks like a ball player, hustles and smiles, he has a very good chance of making the team.

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              • #8
                "Also, I worry if I should even tinker with it so close to tryouts"

                heh, my son tinkered with his pitching and hitting mechanics in the middle of games. Even in college. I feel differently that others here, I think an 11 year old's games mean absolutely nothing. It's his continued improvement that matters most, and there's no better time to see if things work than during a game/practice. (Coaches won't like this)
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by songtitle View Post
                  "Also, I worry if I should even tinker with it so close to tryouts"

                  heh, my son tinkered with his pitching and hitting mechanics in the middle of games. Even in college. I feel differently that others here, I think an 11 year old's games mean absolutely nothing. It's his continued improvement that matters most, and there's no better time to see if things work than during a game/practice. (Coaches won't like this)
                  i agree with Song. I think a better swing will generally have a better chance. so why wait? But as others mentioned, his ingrained swing, will be his game swing for a longtime, so have patience. Pick one key thing to work on and get it down before moving forward. Of course the difficulty is figuring out what to focus on.... Song's post are straightforward and a good start.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sparkny2 View Post
                    Also find a pro swing that your boy can emulate. Monkey see monkey do the pattern in slow mo.
                    Very good idea. I'm trying to think of one, but I am a White Sox fan. LOL

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by flyingmachine3 View Post
                      Good chance it will be BP from a coach to see his swing during tryouts. Don't try to tweak much right now, but help throw similar BP to him and tell him to have high intent to do damage. If he can pitch, has a strong arm, looks like a ball player, hustles and smiles, he has a very good chance of making the team.
                      Ok, In doing some research, I may have overshot his pitching as "Elite". From watching a lot of baseball, he would be an above average pitcher on what is an "A" team in these parts. The problem is that I am so used to watching him pitch with bad defense consistently. As far as the other stuff. Arm-check, looks the part-check, hustles-check. If they throw BP to him only, he will hit with power no doubt, but the coach is going to think to himself.. "hmmm, I need to fix this" etc...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nib View Post
                        Two things popped out to me:

                        If he is “elite” level pitching, teams will find him, so he has all the time in the world to fix the swing.

                        No “tweaks” will help. Would need to see video of several game swings to get hitting-by-committee input here.
                        Can I actually post his swing here?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by songtitle View Post
                          "Also, I worry if I should even tinker with it so close to tryouts"

                          heh, my son tinkered with his pitching and hitting mechanics in the middle of games. Even in college. I feel differently that others here, I think an 11 year old's games mean absolutely nothing. It's his continued improvement that matters most, and there's no better time to see if things work than during a game/practice. (Coaches won't like this)
                          His rec coach would love that actually! However, I understand your point.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Blackstone View Post

                            Very good idea. I'm trying to think of one, but I am a White Sox fan. LOL
                            The big hurt... but today's sawx hmmm (jeopardy theme)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Blackstone View Post

                              Very good idea. I'm trying to think of one, but I am a White Sox fan. LOL
                              I'd be happy to mimic this swing



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