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Off-Season BP Vid From Different Angle

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  • Off-Season BP Vid From Different Angle

    Player is 14 1/2. Curious as to the good and the bad from this view. One swing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NxB46sOeIQ
    Coaching experience: Managed 5 Little League teams and coached on 4 others. So, what do I know?

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    • #3
      Nice progress, he's on his way. Here's what he can work on.
      1. His heel is up before it should be (see pic above). Keep the heel down as long as possible. He is not striding off the back leg as far as he should, so the knee is collapsed here when it should be straightening and tightly rotating.
      2. Hold the coil inward a little longer. He's mostly coiling in over the back leg, but seems to be holding it slightly. Coil in much longer. This will also help with #1 above.
      3. Don't pull the elbow quite so far behind his body (see pic above). It's not as bad as most, but could be better.

      Nice partial coil in, nice horizontal forearm, knob points to catcher, nice elbow slot down to belt. He's ahead of most.
      Last edited by songtitle; 12-04-2018, 10:03 AM.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by songtitle View Post
        Nice progress, he's on his way. Here's what he can work on.
        1. His heel is up before it should be (see pic above). Keep the heel down as long as possible. He is not striding off the back leg as far as he should, so the knee is collapsed here when it should be straightening and tightly rotating.
        2. Hold the coil inward a little longer. He's mostly coiling in over the back leg, but seems to be holding it slightly. Coil in much longer. This will also help with #1 above.
        3. Don't pull the elbow quite so far behind his body (see pic above). It's not as bad as most, but could be better.

        Nice partial coil in, nice horizontal forearm, knob points to catcher, nice elbow slot down to belt. He's ahead of most.
        Thanks song! I appreciate it. Always respect your thoughts.
        Coaching experience: Managed 5 Little League teams and coached on 4 others. So, what do I know?

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        • #5
          I like that view. I find it helpful on providing very good feedback on load/stride, timing and swing path. My kid after a few swings starts to get a tilted negative move that would mess up his timing. I of course could not say anything, but video never lies. The Blast vision app is also good with side view tee work only.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sparkny2 View Post
            but video never lies.
            It's like football with game films. The eye in the sky does not lie!

            Coaching experience: Managed 5 Little League teams and coached on 4 others. So, what do I know?

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            • #7
              I believe in football....there are various angle views that are used to get the 'call' right. Like baseball only one view of a swing can 'lie'(not show flaws that may be visible from another angle).
              Looks to be a swing 'around' the body swing to me. Looks like an outside pitch that should have been hit opposite field. Should have been an 'out from' the body swing instead of swinging 'around' the ball. JMHO until I get my preferred side view.
              Not a 'knock' but, I thought in was your son because of similar swing pattern. I'm guessing same HC?
              Last edited by rdbass; 12-05-2018, 07:49 AM.

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              • #8
                In 1985 when I coached my first HS team as an AC/hitting coach, I asked for a ladder. The HC thought I was crazy. I bought the hitters a white pair of batting gloves to wear and asked for them to all wear that pair of hitting gloves when they entered the cage. I got a chuckle when I saw the still from the video. It reminded me of back then. IMO, I could see a lot when I climbed up on that ladder and stared down at each hitter. Naturally, the HC thought I was crazy and so, I've been accused of that for a long time. LOL
                Granny said Sonny stick to your guns if you believe in something no matter what. Because it's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you're not.

                I am an ex expert. I've done this long enough to know that those who think that they know it all, know nothing.

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                • #9

                  I asked for a ladder. The HC thought I was crazy. I bought the hitters a white pair of batting gloves to wear and asked for them to all wear that pair of hitting gloves when they entered the cage. I got a chuckle when I saw the still from the video. It reminded me of back then. IMO, I could see a lot when I climbed up on that ladder and stared down at each
                  You aren't 'saying' that this still/pic or video was taken from 'on top of a ladder' prospective view, are you? Looks from a behind the hitter view to me. Maybe Francis can weigh in....

                  This is 'on top of a ladder' view to me...but, what do I know...apparently nothing.

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                  • #10
                    RD, no the still photo and not the video. Sure that angle is not exactly the same. It just reminded me of something similar and behind which would have created much the same angle as I had climbing up the ladder.

                    In the old facilities that we had when I first started, it was a very tight space in an old time gym that actually had 3 tiers of those old pull out bleachers. (3rd tier was what was called a "crow's nest.) If I climbed up on the ladder, I could see from the back and if I went all the way up, I could get on that top tier of bleachers and sit to watch hitter's swings. It was a little dangerous and one day, after I got to practice early to set everything up, I got "caught" on a hook on the ball and was suspended up there by my pants which were hooked from the back side. The ladder had fallen. It is funny now but not back then. I had to"bounce" my way off of that hook and fell a good distance.

                    In that facility, and even at that height, I could not get the angle you represent in the video you added. The point was that it reminded me of changing angles etc. to view hitters.
                    Granny said Sonny stick to your guns if you believe in something no matter what. Because it's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you're not.

                    I am an ex expert. I've done this long enough to know that those who think that they know it all, know nothing.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rdbass View Post
                      Looks from a behind the hitter view to me. Maybe Francis can weigh in....
                      Yes. Video was from behind the batter.

                      Coaching experience: Managed 5 Little League teams and coached on 4 others. So, what do I know?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Francis7 View Post
                        Yes. Video was from behind the batter.
                        I am somewhat confused. Were you on the same plane with him or was the camera elevated? Also, if you were on the same plane, what would happen if he swung the bat and missed? Finally, what type of balls were being used. I noticed no cage so you had to be there with him unless this was another type of camera.
                        Granny said Sonny stick to your guns if you believe in something no matter what. Because it's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you're not.

                        I am an ex expert. I've done this long enough to know that those who think that they know it all, know nothing.

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                        • #13



                          Same swing...Never answered the other question:
                          Same HC
                          Same facility.
                          I'm guessing LOL
                          There's a difference of hitting with ones back opposed to the chest....
                          There's a difference of hitting behind the ball.......
                          There's a difference of hitting around the ball....
                          There's a difference of hitting down and up through the ball....
                          Like I said JMHO.....
                          Last edited by rdbass; 12-05-2018, 05:08 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Francis7 View Post
                            Player is 14 1/2. Curious as to the good and the bad from this view. One swing.
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NxB46sOeIQ
                            I'm curious how he does against live pitching. Based on the video, I would mix speeds against him.
                            "Once you stop learning, you start dying" -- Albert Einstein.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by rdbass View Post



                              Same swing...Never answered the other question:
                              Same HC
                              Same facility.
                              I'm guessing LOL
                              There's a difference of hitting with ones back opposed to the chest....
                              There's a difference of hitting behind the ball.......
                              There's a difference of hitting around the ball....
                              There's a difference of hitting down and up through the ball....
                              Like I said JMHO.....
                              RD, thanks for the video work. At my work, I can not see this and so, your remarks had me confused.

                              Francis, first, I am an advocate of "getting the front hip in the way to get it out of the way." Still, it can be overcooked and in my opinion, it is in your son's case. When I coach that, I want that action to be subtle. In your son's case, he is going to get busted inside and will, imo, struggle with centering the ball. What I see in the video is a hitter who knows what is coming and is sitting to drive that ball by swinging as hard as possible. The problem then is can that swing be adjustable? Hitting isn't all turn and burn. What do check swings look like? IMO, a check swing can tell you a lot about a swing.
                              Granny said Sonny stick to your guns if you believe in something no matter what. Because it's better to be hated for who you are than to be loved for who you're not.

                              I am an ex expert. I've done this long enough to know that those who think that they know it all, know nothing.

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