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    I started having a lot of pain in my throwing elbow last tuesday, we started on monday... I went to the doc and he said it was epicolydis? or tennis elbow and recommended I get one of those straps so I did, and it hurt just as bad, I mean on a scale of 1-10 its a 7.5 after practice and a 8.5 during when im trying to throw, I cant throw hard at all anymore I normally throw 70, I now can barely throw 20 without it hurting. and it hurts after I finish the throw? what can i do please help seriously I need a lot of help. the doctor offered to give me cortisone shots should I do it? I'd do anything to be able to throw hard again.


    I cant take any days off either cuz im fighting for a varsity spot this year.
    Last edited by jamesh23; 02-12-2008, 05:24 PM.
    2008 varsity stats
    AB-35 K-5 BB-6 H-14 2B-3 3B-0 HR-0 RBI-10 BA- .400
    all stars pitching stats--- W-L= 1-0
    IP- 5 H- 1 BB- 2 HR- 0 ER- 0 K- 8 ERA: 0.00

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    REST for a long time it normally takes 1-2 months to come back from an injury like that. When I was like 12 years old I had the same thing but I got back on track with rest and Ice.

    Do not throw or pitch or you will tear the tendon off the epicondly {sp} which is not good and could take never long time to heal. I know baseball just started but health is very important.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jamesh23 View Post
      I started having a lot of pain in my throwing elbow last tuesday, we started on monday... I went to the doc and he said it was epicolydis? or tennis elbow and recommended I get one of those straps so I did, and it hurt just as bad, I mean on a scale of 1-10 its a 7.5 after practice and a 8.5 during when im trying to throw, I cant throw hard at all anymore I normally throw 70, I now can barely throw 20 without it hurting. and it hurts after I finish the throw? what can i do please help seriously I need a lot of help. the doctor offered to give me cortisone shots should I do it? I'd do anything to be able to throw hard again.


      I cant take any days off either cuz im fighting for a varsity spot this year.
      I think epicolydis has something to do with some intestinal problem epicondylitis is the elbow. Cortisone is a short term answer. The way you throw probably needs to be changed.
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      • #4
        Can I say lack of conditioning and maybe mechanics?

        OR

        Too much too quick?
        Last edited by Jake Patterson; 02-12-2008, 05:40 PM.

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        • #5
          epicondylitis ya thats it thanks


          and ya Im pretty sure it was too much too quick, My pitching coach said I had pretty good mechanics but they could use work.

          Im really kinda scared. I hear Cortisone works for like 6 months then the pain comes back, well i'd be done with baseball and it could heal during that time right? my mom had a cortisone injection in her knee 22 years ago and it hasnt bothered her since, and she really messed it up, she had surgery and it swelled a lot, she tripped and tore something and its good now.
          2008 varsity stats
          AB-35 K-5 BB-6 H-14 2B-3 3B-0 HR-0 RBI-10 BA- .400
          all stars pitching stats--- W-L= 1-0
          IP- 5 H- 1 BB- 2 HR- 0 ER- 0 K- 8 ERA: 0.00

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          • #6
            Originally posted by jamesh23 View Post
            I started having a lot of pain in my throwing elbow last tuesday, we started on monday... I went to the doc and he said it was epicolydis? or tennis elbow and recommended I get one of those straps so I did, and it hurt just as bad, I mean on a scale of 1-10 its a 7.5 after practice and a 8.5 during when im trying to throw, I cant throw hard at all anymore I normally throw 70, I now can barely throw 20 without it hurting. and it hurts after I finish the throw? what can i do please help seriously I need a lot of help. the doctor offered to give me cortisone shots should I do it? I'd do anything to be able to throw hard again. I cant take any days off either cuz im fighting for a varsity spot this year.
            Your MD doesn't know what he's doing.

            A Cortisone shot won't address the root cause of the problem.

            Here are some questions...

            How old are you?
            Where's the pain? Inside or outside?
            Did the MD say medial or lateral epicondylitis?
            Were you taught to show the ball to CF at the high cocked position?
            Do you play baseball year round?
            Which way does your ball move? Glove side or arm side?
            What pitches do you throw and with what frequencies?
            Hitting Coordinator for Harris-Stowe State University in St. Louis.

            I also work with the pitchers who are dealing with injury problems.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jamesh23 View Post
              my mom had a cortisone injection in her knee 22 years ago and it hasnt bothered her since, and she really messed it up, she had surgery and it swelled a lot, she tripped and tore something and its good now.
              James don't confuse nor use what happened to your mother's knee 22 years ago as a gauge for your problem. It sounds like you should not be throwing for awhile.
              "He who dares to teach, must never cease to learn."
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Chris O'Leary View Post
                Your MD doesn't know what he's doing.

                A Cortisone shot won't address the root cause of the problem.

                Here are some questions...

                How old are you?
                Where's the pain? Inside or outside?
                Did the MD say medial or lateral epicondylitis?
                Were you taught to show the ball to CF at the high cocked position?
                Do you play baseball year round?
                Which way does your ball move? Glove side or arm side?
                What pitches do you throw and with what frequencies?
                Im 15
                Its on the inside and outside
                Lateral
                I was taught to show it to 2nd base so same thing? and long arm the ball
                No i play 6 months, highschool and summer league
                my fastball stays straight, my 2 seam moves to arm side

                I throw a fastball 80% of the time and a changeup 10%, with a curveball the other 10%
                also im working on a knuckleball
                2008 varsity stats
                AB-35 K-5 BB-6 H-14 2B-3 3B-0 HR-0 RBI-10 BA- .400
                all stars pitching stats--- W-L= 1-0
                IP- 5 H- 1 BB- 2 HR- 0 ER- 0 K- 8 ERA: 0.00

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
                  James don't confuse nor use what happened to your mother's knee 22 years ago as a gauge for your problem. It sounds like you should not be throwing for awhile.
                  How do i talk to my coach about it? I was really hoping to start varsity this year, it doesnt bother me when I swing or hit though, so maybe I could keep hitting and just not throw?
                  2008 varsity stats
                  AB-35 K-5 BB-6 H-14 2B-3 3B-0 HR-0 RBI-10 BA- .400
                  all stars pitching stats--- W-L= 1-0
                  IP- 5 H- 1 BB- 2 HR- 0 ER- 0 K- 8 ERA: 0.00

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jamesh23 View Post
                    I started having a lot of pain in my throwing elbow last tuesday, we started on monday... I went to the doc and he said it was epicolydis? or tennis elbow and recommended I get one of those straps so I did, and it hurt just as bad, I mean on a scale of 1-10 its a 7.5 after practice and a 8.5 during when im trying to throw, I cant throw hard at all anymore I normally throw 70, I now can barely throw 20 without it hurting. and it hurts after I finish the throw? what can i do please help seriously I need a lot of help. the doctor offered to give me cortisone shots should I do it? I'd do anything to be able to throw hard again.


                    I cant take any days off either cuz im fighting for a varsity spot this year.
                    You probably threw too much, too hard, too soon. And, MAYBE your throwing motion needs adjustment.

                    Here's what I found at wikipedia;

                    Treatment
                    The goal of treatment is to relieve pain and swelling. Treatment may include:

                    Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medications (such as Advil, Aleve or aspirin)
                    Local injection of cortisone and an numbing medicine
                    Using a splint to keep the forearm and elbow still for 2 to 3 weeks
                    Heat therapy
                    Physical therapy
                    Pulsed ultrasound to break up scar tissue, promote healing, and increase blood flow in the area
                    To prevent the injury from happening again during aggravating activities either a splint may be worn or only limited participation in the activity undertaken. If the pain persists despite non-surgical treatments, surgery may be necessary. [3]

                    Although not founded in clinical research[4] , the tennis player's treatment of choice is frequent icing and compression (Cold compression therapy) for inflammation, and taking anti-inflammatory pain-killers, such as ibuprofen. In general the evidence base for intervention measures is poor.[5] A brace might also be recommended by a doctor to reduce the range of movement in the elbow and thus reduce the use and pain. Also, ergonomic considerations are important to help with the successful relief of lateral elbow pain.


                    [edit] Initial measures
                    Rest, ice, and compression are the treatments of choice. There are many excellent cold compression therapy products available. Nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs (Advil, Aleve, aspirin) may reduce pain and inflammation.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jamesh23 View Post
                      I was taught to show it to 2nd base so same thing? and long arm the ball
                      Well, we have our problem!

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                      • #12
                        Chances are your arm needs extended rest. You should go to a sports orthopedic specialist to get the correct diagnosis, erst and rehab. Chances are you're an aspiring DH this season. Do not throw just because it feels good one day. See a specialist.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Go Cardinals View Post
                          Well, we have our problem!

                          why? am I supposed to short arm the ball? I only see two ways to throw short arming and long arming please explain

                          Originally posted by TG Coach View Post
                          Chances are your arm needs extended rest. You should go to a sports orthopedic specialist to get the correct diagnosis, erst and rehab. Chances are you're an aspiring DH this season. Do not throw just because it feels good one day. See a specialist.
                          I wouldnt mind DHing but i'd rather not just do that but I will if I have too. I will make an appointment problem is there isnt a specialist within 400 miles.
                          2008 varsity stats
                          AB-35 K-5 BB-6 H-14 2B-3 3B-0 HR-0 RBI-10 BA- .400
                          all stars pitching stats--- W-L= 1-0
                          IP- 5 H- 1 BB- 2 HR- 0 ER- 0 K- 8 ERA: 0.00

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jamesh23 View Post
                            why? am I supposed to short arm the ball? I only see two ways to throw short arming and long arming please explain
                            Don't show the ball to second base! Thats the problem!

                            Read:
                            http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/...nic/index.html

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Go Cardinals View Post
                              Don't show the ball to second base! Thats the problem!

                              Read:
                              http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/...nic/index.html
                              ima need a more specific link than that sorry... YOu just gave me a link with a bunch of pitching analysis.... ill still look.
                              2008 varsity stats
                              AB-35 K-5 BB-6 H-14 2B-3 3B-0 HR-0 RBI-10 BA- .400
                              all stars pitching stats--- W-L= 1-0
                              IP- 5 H- 1 BB- 2 HR- 0 ER- 0 K- 8 ERA: 0.00

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