Pronating Splitter

[RIstar]

Hey I've been doing pretty good with mechanics so now I've been able to focus more on my off-speed pitches.

I have worked on throwing my Change-up and Splitter in my garage and working on getting the release down. I've been pronating the change-up to make it have a screwball action and I know that is safe BUT......................... Is it safe to Prontate the Splitter? I pronated it today and it felt pretty good but I never heard of someone pronating it.

[fastbal95]

RIstar,

Our sinker and the "traditional" splitter are fairly similar. While when you throw a splitter, you hold the ball tightly between your index and middle fingers, when we throw our maxline sinker, we hold the ball in between our middle and ring fingers. This grip is a much stronger grip because of the placements of muscles in your hand. I would say that the actions of both of the pitches are similar, not exact though. I see no reason why you should not pronate your splitter.

[Go Cardinals]

I splitter is a terrible pitch to learn. It is terrible for you... especially your hand.

[fastbal95]

The reason you should hold the ball in between your middle and ring finger, instead of your index and middle, like with the splitter, is because of the placement of the dorsal interossei muscles.

The problem you get with the splitter is because you only have 2 of these dorsal interossie muscles to use when you grip the splitter in between the index and middle fingers.

However, when you grip the ball in between your middle and ring fingers, like we do in our maxline sinker, you are able to use 3 of these dorsal interossei muscles, thereby creating a stronger grip.

RIstar,

I would suggest learning the sinker and pronating it as hard as possible while spiraling the ball out of your hand. The action you get with this pitch is similar to the splitter, at least in my experience with the sinker and splitter.

[Baseball gLove]

The reason you should hold the ball in between your middle and ring finger, instead of your index and middle, like with the splitter, is because of the placement of the dorsal interossei muscles.

The problem you get with the splitter is because you only have 2 of these dorsal interossie muscles to use when you grip the splitter in between the index and middle fingers.

However, when you grip the ball in between your middle and ring fingers, like we do in our maxline sinker, you are able to use 3 of these dorsal interossei muscles, thereby creating a stronger grip.

RIstar,

I would suggest learning the sinker and pronating it as hard as possible while spiraling the ball out of your hand. The action you get with this pitch is similar to the splitter, at least in my experience with the sinker and splitter.

Should these young guns be throwing these pitches without the appropriate training 1st? My son has been pronating his throws over 5 years.

[fastbal95]

Baseball Love,

Notice how I said, "I would suggest learning the sinker and pronating it as hard as possible while spiraling the ball out of your hand."

I have stated numerous times to these young kids through PM's and on here that they should read Doc's book and watch his video with their parents and "LEARN" how to do what I have suggested. It is up to them to do it. I can only suggest things.

It does not take long to learn how to pronate your pitches. That your son has been doing it for 5 years is great. I would still like to see video of your son to see if he pulls his arm across his body to decelerate, because you really cannot pronate that powerfully when you do pull your arm across your body. Also, I would like to see if he pronates through his release, or just after.

[Baseball gLove]

Baseball Love,

Notice how I said, "I would suggest learning the sinker and pronating it as hard as possible while spiraling the ball out of your hand."

I have stated numerous times to these young kids through PM's and on here that they should read Doc's book and watch his video with their parents and "LEARN" how to do what I have suggested. It is up to them to do it. I can only suggest things.

It does not take long to learn how to pronate your pitches. That your son has been doing it for 5 years is great. I would still like to see video of your son to see if he pulls his arm across his body to decelerate, because you really cannot pronate that powerfully when you do pull your arm across your body. Also, I would like to see if he pronates through his release, or just after.

He pronates. His hand is supinated and then pronates through release. He gets his elbow up like you guys do after release and reaches to the target. His arm does not come across his body.

[RIstar]

Splitter is a great pitch to throw and I see no harm at all. I've throwing a normal on without pronation for a while and it's kind of like my 2nd change-up.

My fingers are fine with the splitter.

My pitches are:

Sinking fastball {downward and little tail.}

4-seam {straight or moves up rises} rising meaning it stays straight longer I know it can't rise.

Curve-ball- Nasty break down and away it's loopy but has downward bite.

Change-up or Splitter I can throw them both for a strike and in my bullpen I chose which one I want on that day and which one seems to have the right feel. It's never really failed me so far.

I will make a choice soon maybe between the 2 change-ups.

My sinker is faster then my splitter even though same action my splitter has that slower mph to trick the hitter into thinking fastball.

[fastbal95]

Baseball Love,

Good for hear. Would love to see what he looks like.

[jamesh23]

Splitter is a great pitch to throw and I see no harm at all. I've throwing a normal on without pronation for a while and it's kind of like my 2nd change-up.

My fingers are fine with the splitter.

My pitches are:

Sinking fastball {downward and little tail.}

4-seam {straight or moves up rises} rising meaning it stays straight longer I know it can't rise.

Curve-ball- Nasty break down and away it's loopy but has downward bite.

Change-up or Splitter I can throw them both for a strike and in my bullpen I chose which one I want on that day and which one seems to have the right feel. It's never really failed me so far.

I will make a choice soon maybe between the 2 change-ups.

My sinker is faster then my splitter even though same action my splitter has that slower mph to trick the hitter into thinking fastball.

I really doubt your fastball has a hop to it like lincecum or someone that makes the illusion that it rises, you have to throw hard for it to do that, not 75, 80, or even 85.

[Go Cardinals]

Splitter is a great pitch to throw and I see no harm at all. I've throwing a normal on without pronation for a while and it's kind of like my 2nd change-up.

My fingers are fine with the splitter.

My pitches are:

Sinking fastball {downward and little tail.}

4-seam {straight or moves up rises} rising meaning it stays straight longer I know it can't rise.

Curve-ball- Nasty break down and away it's loopy but has downward bite.

Change-up or Splitter I can throw them both for a strike and in my bullpen I chose which one I want on that day and which one seems to have the right feel. It's never really failed me so far.

I will make a choice soon maybe between the 2 change-ups.

My sinker is faster then my splitter even though same action my splitter has that slower mph to trick the hitter into thinking fastball.

So do your fingers call you up on their i-phone and tell you how their doing?

Please share your magic... if you do, doctors will go out of business...

[RIstar]

So do your fingers call you up on their i-phone and tell you how their doing?

Please share your magic... if you do, doctors will go out of business...

Wow we have some real mature people here lol.

No pain or soreness in the fingers when I throw the splitter it means that they are fine.