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  • Epstein and the Wrists

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    Last edited by Chris O'Leary; 12-18-2008, 12:39 PM.
    Obsessed with Pitching Mechanics.

  • #2
    Chris,
    The only mention that I have ever seen Epstein make was based on troubleshooting loss of power (rolling wrists at contact). Have you asked him where he learned this?

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      Last edited by Chris O'Leary; 12-18-2008, 12:39 PM.
      Obsessed with Pitching Mechanics.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Chris O'Leary View Post
        The instructor is the only Epstein certified guy in St. Louis. Also, I know he likes Epstein's approach to teaching rotational hitting better.
        Thanks Chris,
        I'm still trying to connect the dots. Ask the hitter to hit out of the torque positition at the beginning of his tee work. If he's Epstein instructed, you'll see him rotate (and he'll know what you're talking about). That's an Epstein staple.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Chris O'Leary View Post
          Does anyone know if/to what degree Epstein focuses on the role of the wrists?

          As I said previously, I have a hitter who, when hitting off the tee, won't hit at speed (e.g. just swing away). Instead, he rotates to the bat lag (with squish the bug) position and from there just swings the bat with his wrists.

          More generally speaking, do you think focusing on the wrists to this degree makes sense?

          I could see strengthening the wrists having some value by helping to transfer energy back into the ball rather than absorbing it in the wrists, but what my player is doing seems excessive.

          He doesn't spend any time working on connection or rotation, which IMO are much bigger bang for the buck areas.

          Also, I'm asking this in general because I'm trying to figure out if my hitter is being taught pure Epstein or some hybrid approach.
          Having been an Epstein Certified instructor and spent many hours talking with him, I can tell you with certainty, that he does not teach students to power the bat with the wrists. If the kid is doing that, he got it on his own or from the instructor.

          He teaches to keep the hands back, rotate and then pull the knob through. There is no wrist action taught.

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          • #6
            Chris has been blaming everything on Epstein lately for some reason. Once you discount the latest subject he comes back with another one.

            I am sure someone would send you a copy of the DVD's Chris if you want them that badly. just ask.

            Cally

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              Last edited by Chris O'Leary; 12-18-2008, 12:39 PM.
              Obsessed with Pitching Mechanics.

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                Last edited by Chris O'Leary; 12-18-2008, 12:39 PM.
                Obsessed with Pitching Mechanics.

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                • #9
                  Chris,
                  It sounds like a hybrid swing. If the student has been through Epstein hitting system they do not use tee's to train the students. They use swingbusters or hands back hitters. This may be the reason he is having a hard time hitting off your tee.

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                  • #10
                    My question is why he is seeing two different instructors, that by the sounds of things, have two different styles of hitting.
                    The Magicman Principle

                    "Always look until you find video that can be used to prove your point, and when all else fails, bash someone"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lady_Knights View Post
                      My question is why he is seeing two different instructors, that by the sounds of things, have two different styles of hitting.

                      Good question Lady Knights. This can be tough on all parties involved. :noidea







                      EL,

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                        Last edited by Chris O'Leary; 12-18-2008, 12:39 PM.
                        Obsessed with Pitching Mechanics.

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                        • #13
                          2 different instructors

                          Chris, I am having much of the same issues.Poor private instuction and poorly informed dads.

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                          • #14
                            [QUOTE I would love to see the Epstein disks if you or someone could get them to me.[/QUOTE]

                            pm me your address and I will loan them to you.

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