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i just got home from work (late mind u)and got some reall wierd news from my son. i really dont know where to start but he goes.
since my son made the junior high team i have been hands off with his pitching not wanting to over work him and also interferr with the coaches work program. my son has pitched 2 games for the team 1 preseason and reg and i have noticed that he was getting higher in his arm slot then when i was working with him(he won both games). i was hey if it works then leave it alone, but tonite he tells me the inside of his elbow is bothering him just above the elbow on the forearm. i remeber someone posting on a thread about elbow hurting and to hold the arm in a L position and flex the hand back so the palm is up and which side of the elbow hurts. he tells me inside not outside and its not a sharp pain more of a dull soreness.
this is where it gets real interesting. i mentioned that it might be from him throwing from a higher arm slot as he is nearly at a 3/4 armslot now and he tells me that the coach is telling him to throw from there and he want him to try and get it even higher. i asked him when did all this come about and he told me right before the preseason game, that the p coach want him to throw from as high as i can or from over the top as much as i can. i was kinda dumb founded not knowing what to tell him.
here is a brief history of my son throwing.
my son always had a strong arm since he started playing and when he threw the ball and really did it with out thinking he would drop down and throw from the side. the coaches would go nuts and tell him he had to throw over the top and since i did not know any better i was telling him the same thing. but when he would go over the top u never knew where the ball was going to go. so when he was 9 and show desire to pitch i was ok lets do some research on how to pitch. i went to the web and read as much as i could find on pitching. mind u i am no expert just tried to explain to him what i found and read. that year was a disaster he threw hard but had not accurately. the next year the same thing till about half the season was over. i noticed that every now and then he would drop down to side arm and throw pretty good. i was talking to a friend who just happened to be a x-MLB pitcher of 8-9 years in the majors and i told him what i was going thru. he told me to have him throw to me and not tell him how to throw but just throw the ball and see where he would end up. then have him get on his right knee with his left foot on the groung and throw and see where he comes from then both knees on the ground and throw and that should tell me where his arm slot is and low and behold he threw from a side arm slot. once i found that out i took him to my friend to evaluate him on his mechanics and see what he thought. he said he saw no problems and told me what to look for as far as problems and bad habits if they should arise. once he started to pitch totally from the side his accuracy increased and made allstars that year. that is when i went and started to find as much as could about sidearmers. since then he has pitched 2 seasons this way and done few pitching camps. we have taken what we could and applied it to his style of pitching. he also threw the entire off season this past year and even got pointers and some lessons from the current H.S. pitching coach who never even tied to change him arm slot wise. even made the junior high team throwing the same way.
now so u know when my son and i would practice pitching generally friday's and sunday's.(weather permitting) he would throw warm ups about 30-40 throws and then he would pitch to me from 60 feet and pitch about 70-100 pitches all fastball 2 seam 4 seam and about 15-20 cutters in about a 2-3 hour period. till my knees could no longer take the sqauting position or he would say i am tired dad. now i would always ask at least 3-4 time during our sessions are u ok u want to go home or do some bp or fielding drills.
since my son has been throwing sidearm he has never complained about elbow pain or shoulder pain or any discomfort or soreness.
should i talk to the p coach or not or should i talk to the H.S. p coach and see what he says.
sorry for the long essay
since my son made the junior high team i have been hands off with his pitching not wanting to over work him and also interferr with the coaches work program. my son has pitched 2 games for the team 1 preseason and reg and i have noticed that he was getting higher in his arm slot then when i was working with him(he won both games). i was hey if it works then leave it alone, but tonite he tells me the inside of his elbow is bothering him just above the elbow on the forearm. i remeber someone posting on a thread about elbow hurting and to hold the arm in a L position and flex the hand back so the palm is up and which side of the elbow hurts. he tells me inside not outside and its not a sharp pain more of a dull soreness.
this is where it gets real interesting. i mentioned that it might be from him throwing from a higher arm slot as he is nearly at a 3/4 armslot now and he tells me that the coach is telling him to throw from there and he want him to try and get it even higher. i asked him when did all this come about and he told me right before the preseason game, that the p coach want him to throw from as high as i can or from over the top as much as i can. i was kinda dumb founded not knowing what to tell him.
here is a brief history of my son throwing.
my son always had a strong arm since he started playing and when he threw the ball and really did it with out thinking he would drop down and throw from the side. the coaches would go nuts and tell him he had to throw over the top and since i did not know any better i was telling him the same thing. but when he would go over the top u never knew where the ball was going to go. so when he was 9 and show desire to pitch i was ok lets do some research on how to pitch. i went to the web and read as much as i could find on pitching. mind u i am no expert just tried to explain to him what i found and read. that year was a disaster he threw hard but had not accurately. the next year the same thing till about half the season was over. i noticed that every now and then he would drop down to side arm and throw pretty good. i was talking to a friend who just happened to be a x-MLB pitcher of 8-9 years in the majors and i told him what i was going thru. he told me to have him throw to me and not tell him how to throw but just throw the ball and see where he would end up. then have him get on his right knee with his left foot on the groung and throw and see where he comes from then both knees on the ground and throw and that should tell me where his arm slot is and low and behold he threw from a side arm slot. once i found that out i took him to my friend to evaluate him on his mechanics and see what he thought. he said he saw no problems and told me what to look for as far as problems and bad habits if they should arise. once he started to pitch totally from the side his accuracy increased and made allstars that year. that is when i went and started to find as much as could about sidearmers. since then he has pitched 2 seasons this way and done few pitching camps. we have taken what we could and applied it to his style of pitching. he also threw the entire off season this past year and even got pointers and some lessons from the current H.S. pitching coach who never even tied to change him arm slot wise. even made the junior high team throwing the same way.
now so u know when my son and i would practice pitching generally friday's and sunday's.(weather permitting) he would throw warm ups about 30-40 throws and then he would pitch to me from 60 feet and pitch about 70-100 pitches all fastball 2 seam 4 seam and about 15-20 cutters in about a 2-3 hour period. till my knees could no longer take the sqauting position or he would say i am tired dad. now i would always ask at least 3-4 time during our sessions are u ok u want to go home or do some bp or fielding drills.
since my son has been throwing sidearm he has never complained about elbow pain or shoulder pain or any discomfort or soreness.
should i talk to the p coach or not or should i talk to the H.S. p coach and see what he says.
sorry for the long essay
"There are no miracles in sports. Miracles have been rehearsed hundreds of times in practice." - Scott Waz
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