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    hello, our season is starting and i have just one question: does pronation during longtoss defect the point of longtoss? Im asking this because today when i was playing longtoss with another player, he told after we were finished that i need to stop pronation, because it takes away the whole point of longtoss (my throws all tailed a lot, sometimes 8 inches when throwing off the mound, so it's obvious to think what it does from 200-300ft away.) I look up to this guy because he's went all over the world, like Japan playing in some of the top baseball leagues and is probably our top pitcher.

    However, i incorporated pronation on all pitches because when i threw without pronation, i had terrible elbow pains, and the minute i started pronating, it went away. (not only that, i LOVE the movement on my four seam fastball, it makes it break into a righty right at the last minute.)

    The final question is, should i not pronate during longtoss? (note: I am the only one on the team who hasn't experienced any soreness or pain, nor has used ice)

    p.s. my pitching repetoire:

    four-seam fastball: 80-84mph
    two-seam fastball: 78-82mph
    change-up: 69-73mph
    Last edited by Billybob622; 03-20-2008, 07:30 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Billybob622 View Post
    hello, our season is starting and i have just one question: does pronation during longtoss defect the point of longtoss?
    No.

    You should always pronate.
    Hitting Coordinator for Harris-Stowe State University in St. Louis.

    I also work with the pitchers who are dealing with injury problems.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Chris O'Leary View Post
      No.

      You should always pronate.
      So basically, im guessing to compensate for the big tailing action during longtoss, just throw the ball so it tails in to the person that is playing catch with you?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Billybob622 View Post
        So basically, im guessing to compensate for the big tailing action during longtoss, just throw the ball so it tails in to the person that is playing catch with you?
        Correct.

        You could end up screwing up your elbow if you don't pronate during long toss. If you're long-tossing a long distance and on a line, you're throwing the ball pretty hard. Sometimes nearly as hard as when you pitch.
        Hitting Coordinator for Harris-Stowe State University in St. Louis.

        I also work with the pitchers who are dealing with injury problems.

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        • #5
          Thank you!:cap:

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          • #6
            Who ever told you that pronating during long toss defeats the purpose of long toss is full of *%$#@. A lot of the flame throwers pronate their fastball. My son pronates during long toss and when he pitches. I think Coach 45 might agree. My son easily throws the ball over 300 feet during long toss. He has thrown it from football goal post to football goal post. I think you might find that this to be more than 300 feet.
            Last edited by Baseball gLove; 03-21-2008, 12:42 AM.

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            • #7
              well im guessing he was getting frustrated from the tailing action, because we were throwing from pole to pole.

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              • #8
                Just trying to understand this. I assume we're referring to the moment just at or after ball release. Example is for right handed pitcher.

                Does pronate refer to maintaining a somewhat neutral palm orientation that doesn't supinate, or does it mean an actual turning of the palm past what I envision as neutral (palm slightly toward 1st base) down toward the ground or even toward the 3rd base line?

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