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We're just into spring training and already there are 79 pitchers on the DL. Is anybody paying attention?
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Wow. It's hard to imagine how a team's fate could be determined in February/March. Imagine if a team's #1 starter goes down
Originally posted by bhss89Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy -
Ok... some of the "injuries" are suspensions. One "injury" is flu...
Also, how many are new injuries vs injuries from the past. How many are from actually pitching vs... running or hitting... maybe its cronic (sp). 79 pitchers is not an accurate claim, because many were on before.
Also... teams are quick to add to the dl... in fact, this isn't even the DL. MANY of them are listed as day to day.
Also, the sample size I believe is anyone who went to Spring Training... not only MLB. There are many MILB players/ pitchers listed.Last edited by Go Cardinals; 03-22-2008, 11:05 PM.Comment
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GC,
I understand your points, and you're missing the greater point. Instead of looking at exceptions try counting the number of shoulder, elbow, forearm and arm injuries. The number is significant, and yes it includes some guys who likely will not make the 25-man roster but will be listed on the 40-man roster.Comment
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Looks like Pryor was willing to keep his scap loading.
Looks like Matsui's throwing with the wrong TP!Primum non nocereComment
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Wow!! Acknowledging what Go Cards is saying, just look at the number of pitchers relative to position players. Then look at the pitchers and note the type of injuries. Shoulder and elbow. So much for all of the long toss, weighted balls, pitch count limits, # days rest, etc. None of it's working!! This motion's just plain old NASTY!!!Comment
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Interesting we have Beckett, Schilling and Timlin."He who dares to teach, must never cease to learn."
- John Cotton Dana (1856–1929) - Offered to many by L. Olson - Iowa (Teacher)
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Beckett was on the DL with a sore back. He's expected to pitch when the team comes back from Japan. He's on the DL so the Sox can roster another player. Like CG's stated, how many on are on the DL for day to day stuff. Schilling and Timlin are high mileage pitchers in their 40's.
I'm casually curious to also know (someone else can do the research) how many of the pitchers are chronic, career DL'ers as opposed to new pitchers with serious problems.Comment
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Chris.Originally posted by Chris O'Leary View Post
I'm assuming you mean hyper-abduction of the humerus. I'll ask the same boring question everyone else has been asking you on this. How can you be so sure that this is THE cause? It's a theory you have, nothing else. You may be right but you are presenting it as absolute, which it is not.
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Scap loading wouldn't be the cause of what I believe Chris is referring to. He has been beating the drum of the height of the elbow for years now. That would be the degree of abduction of the humerus away from the side of the body (coronal plane), not the "shoulder lag" (sagittal plane) that scap loading contains. Correct me Chris if I'm wrong but I don't believe you're a big fan of scap loading either, just that your comment about hyper-abduction wasn't in reference to that. Correct?Comment
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