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    I need help putting together an off season training program to help me build some muscle and put on some pounds. I'm currently 5'11" 145 lbs. and I want to be at least 160 lbs. by the start of next year. I know this year is only just beginning but I want to be able to plan for the off season and have time to design a workout with your help. My coach says I have a nice swing but I need to "sit a little closer to the table when I eat." I've always been a big eater I'm constantly snacking on something in between meals but I just can't seem to put any weight on. During my last off season workout program I put on 5 lbs. in 4 months. We do the normal bench press, lunges, bicep curls, and stuff like that but I don't think it's too effective for what I want to do. I also obviously want to keep baseball specific exercises in my workout too to build up my fast twitch muscle fibers for more speed and explosive power. This question is geared towards Jon Doyle and the Maxx training guy (sorry I can't remember your name off the top of my head), but anyone else with any info that could help me I'd really appreciate your input.


    also, any speed increasing exercises would be great too because with my size you'd think I was fast but I'm not. I think it might have to do with me being flat-footed but I still want to increase my speed especially since I'm an infielder.

    Thanks again
    "I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball." - Pete Rose

  • #2
    Originally posted by PhillsPhan11 View Post
    I need help putting together an off season training program to help me build some muscle and put on some pounds. I'm currently 5'11" 145 lbs. and I want to be at least 160 lbs. by the start of next year. I know this year is only just beginning but I want to be able to plan for the off season and have time to design a workout with your help. My coach says I have a nice swing but I need to "sit a little closer to the table when I eat." I've always been a big eater I'm constantly snacking on something in between meals but I just can't seem to put any weight on. During my last off season workout program I put on 5 lbs. in 4 months. We do the normal bench press, lunges, bicep curls, and stuff like that but I don't think it's too effective for what I want to do. I also obviously want to keep baseball specific exercises in my workout too to build up my fast twitch muscle fibers for more speed and explosive power. This question is geared towards Jon Doyle and the Maxx training guy (sorry I can't remember your name off the top of my head), but anyone else with any info that could help me I'd really appreciate your input.


    also, any speed increasing exercises would be great too because with my size you'd think I was fast but I'm not. I think it might have to do with me being flat-footed but I still want to increase my speed especially since I'm an infielder.

    Thanks again
    PM Jon Doyle or Maxx Training.
    Jake
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    • #3
      Easiest is push ups and sit ups. Hand Stands are GREAT for putting on mass, but you will need help for safety. Your goal is 100 push ups with 1 rest break. Hand stand for 1 minute on the wall. Wana run faster? Do full sprints 50, 80, and 150 yrds. When you do sprints, its not like running. Its like your being chased by 10 dogs that wana tear you apart. For sprints.. acceleration is pumping your arms and pushing with your feet, for top speed, its about high knees and foot turn over.

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      • #4
        do a google search for "baseball workouts", you will get lots of hits.

        Good luck.

        P.S. I have a few extra pounds you can have.
        See ball, hit ball.

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        • #5
          I did what you guys said and searched for programs I found this one does it seem good for what I want to do?

          Day 1: Legs and Abs.

          Squat: 4 sets of 15 reps
          Stiff-Leg Dead lifts: 3 sets of 12 reps
          Hamstring Curl: 3 sets of 12 reps
          Leg Extension: 2 sets of 10 reps
          Walking Lunge: 2 sets of 20 steps
          Leg Lifts: 1 set of 30 reps
          Crunches: 2 sets of 15 reps
          Oblique Twists: 1 set of 25 reps
          Reverse Crunches: 1 set of 30 reps

          Click here for a printable log of Day 1.

          Day 2: Arms and Chest

          Close-Grip Bench Press: 4 sets of 8 reps
          Flies: 2 sets of 12 reps
          Tri Pushdowns: 3 sets of 10 reps
          Skull Crushers: 2 sets of 12 reps
          Overhead Dumbbell Extension: 3 sets of 10 reps
          Tri Pull downs: 2 sets of 8 reps
          Forearm Curls: 4 sets of 10 reps
          Wrist Curls: 4 sets of 10 reps

          Click here for a printable log of Day 2.

          Day 3: Shoulders and Back

          Bent rows: 3 sets of 15 reps
          Back Extensions: 3 sets of 25 reps
          Wide Grip Pull-ups: 1-Failure
          Lateral Raises: 2 sets of 12 reps
          Machine Rows: 2 sets of 8 reps
          Cuban Press: 3 sets of 12 reps

          Click here for a printable log of Day 3.

          As you can see, I stress high repetitions. This is especially important for pitchers that throw 50-125 pitches per game.


          Drills To Help Your Game

          30-yard Dash - Many uninformed coaches advocate running laps around the field. I may be misinformed, but I have never ran � mile during any particular game. To increase your speed, you need to practice what you will do on the field. By running 30 yards, you mimic the base-to-base run.

          Throwing With A Weighted Ball - By throwing with a heavier ball, you strengthen your shoulder and more importantly your rotator cuff. When you pick up a regulation ball it will feel lighter and you will be able to throw it further. The weighted ball works in the same way a heavy warm-up bat works.

          Long Toss - Long Toss is a proven way to strengthen the arm. Humans are very adaptive by nature. If you practice throwing the ball far, your arm will get stronger and be able to reach the distance without that as much effort. Do long toss every other day. If your arm is sore, wait and do it every third day.


          Conclusion

          The information and exercise in this article will bring your game to the next level. Make sure to avoid coaches who are not educated in training and/or have not done their fare share of research. Remember, although baseball may seem all upper-body, the real power and strength lies in your core and legs. Also remember, repetition is the key to success!
          "I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball." - Pete Rose

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          • #6
            I would go with the long toss over a weighted ball. The heavier ball puts more stress of the ligaments. I do long toss with a softball. It is heavier than a baseball, but not as heavy as one of those weighted baseballs.
            See ball, hit ball.

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            • #7
              How old are you? And where did you get that workout above? I saw another baseball kid with that exact same workout on another forum.......
              MAXX Training - the latest on sports training & athletic performance! www.maxxtraining.com

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Maxx View Post
                How old are you? And where did you get that workout above? I saw another baseball kid with that exact same workout on another forum.......
                I've seen that workout before too. If you google "baseball workouts" its on one of the first pages that comes up.
                See ball, hit ball.

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                • #9
                  Obviously you dont eat very much. If your gana put on mass. Your gana need to eat a LOT more

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                  • #10
                    jake......................

                    whatever happened to the subforum?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PhilliesPhan22 View Post
                      I've seen that workout before too. If you google "baseball workouts" its on one of the first pages that comes up.
                      50 bucks its a bodybuilding.com workout

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                      • #12
                        Card stop lol

                        What position do you play?

                        If you are a pitcher I can help explain some of my views.

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                        • #13
                          My coach says I have a nice swing but I need to "sit a little closer to the table when I eat." I've always been a big eater I'm constantly snacking on something in between meals but I just can't seem to put any weight on.

                          Eating and gaining weight isn't going to make you stronger. Eating the right foods along with training should make you stronger.

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                          • #14
                            i dont like that workout at all


                            Like maxx said you need to give your age and training history


                            For gaining weight/size focus on squats, deadlifts, and food. you have to eat to grow.


                            That stupid workout above had like 3 exercises for your triceps lol.

                            Stick with the basic compound movements and muscle groups. The arms will get trained when working your chest and back so you will only need to do one variation of curls and tri's IMO


                            your age and training history is important to know

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PhillsPhan11 View Post
                              I need help putting together an off season training program to help me build some muscle and put on some pounds. I'm currently 5'11" 145 lbs. and I want to be at least 160 lbs. by the start of next year. I know this year is only just beginning but I want to be able to plan for the off season and have time to design a workout with your help. My coach says I have a nice swing but I need to "sit a little closer to the table when I eat." I've always been a big eater I'm constantly snacking on something in between meals but I just can't seem to put any weight on. During my last off season workout program I put on 5 lbs. in 4 months. We do the normal bench press, lunges, bicep curls, and stuff like that but I don't think it's too effective for what I want to do. I also obviously want to keep baseball specific exercises in my workout too to build up my fast twitch muscle fibers for more speed and explosive power. This question is geared towards Jon Doyle and the Maxx training guy (sorry I can't remember your name off the top of my head), but anyone else with any info that could help me I'd really appreciate your input.


                              also, any speed increasing exercises would be great too because with my size you'd think I was fast but I'm not. I think it might have to do with me being flat-footed but I still want to increase my speed especially since I'm an infielder.

                              Thanks again
                              Phillies Fan,

                              I was also a hard gainer in high school, I graduated HS @5'9" 135lbs.
                              After a year of college I was at 160 lbs, all muscle gain.

                              It's all about getting more quality calories into your body.
                              A high calorie Meal Replacement drink 2-3 times per day will help.

                              Myoplex Mass or Champion Heavyweight Gainer are two that I used successfully.


                              Good Luck.

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