Leverage, fulcrum, and torque

[Slapper23]

What you probably feel is the knob turning back on itself as your lead hand turns left........And it feels like pulling back......

Oh, man, you nailed it, John! Yeah, that's it, that's exactly what LA felt.

Mike

[LAball]

So BM, you do agree that the high level swing starts as a third class lever and changers to a first class lever?

It seems most armature swings are third class levers through the entire swing.

[BoardMember]

Thanks BM for pointing out the different Levers. Been a long time since high school.

No problem.......

[LAball]

Thanks BM for pointing out the different Levers. Been a long time since high school.

[LAball]

I do rotate by body differently then him though...

[PhilliesPhan22]

I think this kind of swing is very adjustable because the wrist stays hinged longer as the body swings the bat. Then as I unhinge the wrist I can adjust the swing.

its a different perspective and i watched and tried it with an open mind, but I just didn't buy into it. Kudos to him for thinking outside the box (so to speak).

[PhilliesPhan22]

I wouldn't spend to much time worrying about it.......

I'm not. I'm comfortable with the way I hit. I need to make a post and vid for evaluation.

[LAball]

It just seems to me like he method leads to only one kind of swing, not able to be adjusted to pitch type and location.

I think this kind of swing is very adjustable because the wrist stays hinged longer as the body swings the bat. Then as I unhinge the wrist I can adjust the swing.

[BoardMember]

I do feel my self pulling back albeit very little. I dont pull back on purpose though. It just happens.

What you probably feel is the knob turning back on itself as your lead hand turns left........And it feels like pulling back......

[LAball]

LA, it's pretty tough to create rearward force "pulling back" as the hands move through the swing.

Rather then thinking of creating a "pull back" with the lead hand, just think of the lead hand turning left into contact as the top hand drives past it.....

This creates the torque late in the swing.......

Pulling back is "virtually" impossible........

I do feel my self pulling back albeit very little. I dont pull back on purpose though. It just happens.

[BoardMember]

It just seems to me like he method leads to only one kind of swing, not able to be adjusted to pitch type and location.

I wouldn't spend to much time worrying about it.......

[Jesse]

Are you applying pressure with your fingers? That's very important.

[PhilliesPhan22]

It just seems to me like he method leads to only one kind of swing, not able to be adjusted to pitch type and location.

[BoardMember]

He does start the swing with the body. And has good upper body tilt, which probably means there is a rearward force on the handle at contact.

LA, it's pretty tough to create rearward force "pulling back" as the hands move through the swing.

Rather then thinking of creating a "pull back" with the lead hand, just think of the lead hand turning left into contact as the top hand drives past it.....

This creates the torque late in the swing.......

Pulling back is "virtually" impossible........

[LAball]

Torque hitting? Like this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byuht5bfR20

About the only thing I can hit doing this is a ball off of a tee.

He does start the swing with the body. And has good upper body tilt, which probably means there is a rearward force on the handle at contact.