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  • Can rotational hitting handle low and outside corner?

    Is it possible to hit that pitch without early extension before the contact?:noidea

  • #2
    Great Question! After reading about rotational hitting in the past days and mentally and "air guitaring" the swing, I wondered about how you would be able to hit that outside pitch.

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    • #3
      Tilt?

      Shut your mouth when you're talking to me!
      Leon says to Rameek, "Wait...you bothered to keep score? Didn't know your golf bag came with a calculator."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mightylakers View Post
        Is it possible to hit that pitch without early extension before the contact?:noidea
        The thing most people do not understand ,,,and throw around too often is your either rotational or linear. Which is so far from the truth. There are certain pitches and pitch locations that one exclusively just doesnt work.

        If your mostly a rotational hitter you would have linear up somewhat to get the low outside pitch. The exceptional hitters dont really need to think about if they were rotational or linear they just react. Yes some are more one than the other, but that doesnt mean your exclusive.

        Way way way too much debate about linear and rotational hitting. I think people spend too much time trying to figure which one they are. After that they down the other one.

        If you want really sound advice you should get your hands on Yeager's DVD's.

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        • #5
          Pujols is about as good as their is on the low and outside. He stays back so well and lets the ball get deep.
          See ball, hit ball.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mightylakers View Post
            Is it possible to hit that pitch without early extension before the contact?:noidea
            Extension doesn't necessarily equal disconnection.

            Can rotational hit the low outside corner? To paraphrase Bud Davis, that depends on what you call rotational. If by rotational, you mean a non-fooled MLB swing, then the answer is yes.
            Last edited by Mark H; 04-12-2008, 07:18 AM.

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            • #7
              I believe the reason this question comes up is until corrected all people here is swing level. They also hear don't drop your shoulder. What successful hitters actually do is swing parallel. The swing is parallel to their shoulders. Look at pictures and video of successful hitters and see where their swing is in relation to their shoulders.

              Ryan Howard (lefty) hits a lot of homers to left center. He gets pitched away a lot. With a proper swing he's hitting the ball just as hard and far up the middle as when he turns on it.

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              • #8
                mechanically, i think mankin describes the inside out MLB swing adjustment the best as direction of top hand force direction and how this stretches the lead arm to set swing radius.

                the outside longer swing radius higher load adjustment resembles a 2plane golf swing with a very upright plane that you adjust by making the "sides" of the swing less narrow.

                2 plane golf swings tend to be too steep/upright/narrow. the upright aspect of the plane is a problem in golf when it gets too vertical becasue then the timing of clubface closure becomes difficult to time right and the ground can force fat shots if you miss low so fat/thin becomes a problem as well. this is not so much a problem in hitting where there is a fairly long sweetspot and you do not have to worry about the end of the club digging into the turf. so steepness is not a problem in hitting.it is actually an advantage because it enlarges the impact zone. This is how you match the plane to the pitch.

                the problem in hitting is that you have to adjust on the fly with limited reaction time. the up/down is by torso/spine angle and is adjusted primarily by shoulder action (not bend at waist) orienting the top of the spine (shoulders are active tilting, not turnng in MLB - a very different "scap" action/sequence/timing from PCR)).

                the in/out adjustment is similar to how narrow (in) or wide (out) the sides of the swing are.

                the mlb swing has early batspeed and late adjustability. it uses handle torque (throughout swing starting early when there is lots of inertia to overcome to prevent drag) to keep hands back, quicken acceleration (resistance to load better/sharpen cusp, running start to eliminate drag) and adjust swing plane/shape.

                hands/arms do not just apply "tension", they have to move in a consistent alternating sequence to demand synched movements of the lower body so the two ends control how the middle moves in between.

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                • #9
                  As always, check anything anyone says about hitting against slow motion video of the best in the world.

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                  • #10
                    hit the ball deeper in and dont over ROTATE somebody had some wright clips on him hitting the outside pitch,he never showed his belly button to the pitcher,,

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                    • #11
                      I agree with Mark's advice, and in looking slo-mo video of the best you will begin to see the things Tom Guerry talks about. And talks about not just in the previous post but in all of his posts.

                      Mike

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                      • #12
                        Better check that one for yourselves folks. The point of the test is to not take anyone's word for anything. That includes me and it most certainly includes arm chair theorists and their fans.

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                        • #13
                          Yes, "folks", please do check anything anyone says against slo-mo video of the best...kinda like the Fox News thing - we report, you decide. Well, let the video show you and you decide.

                          Mike

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