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  • Jaeger Long Toss on YouTube

    Here it is in action:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=y36uzv58Wsk

    Notice that Alan whips out the radar gun for the flat ground pull down phase. Something others couldn't do when asked to prove velocities.
    Last edited by Baseball gLove; 05-01-2008, 12:38 PM.

  • #2
    Great stuff !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • #3
      is Jaeger pretty much "The Guy" for pitching these days?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by caseyd123 View Post
        is Jaeger pretty much "The Guy" for pitching these days?
        He is not about pitching mechanics, but more about arm care and conditioning, plus mental attitude. Funny thing is I noticed my son's mechanics, like getting the plant foot down before firing the ball, improved with the long toss routine.

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        • #5
          Mini Stealth went through a program last fall that was based a lot on Jeager's stuff. It made a huge difference in his ability to throw the ball.
          "Tip it and rip it" - In Memory of Dmac
          "Hit the inside seam" - In Memory of Swingbuster

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          • #6
            My son was introduced to this program while playing for a summer college team after his final high school season. He led his team in all offensive categories last year as a left-handed hitting catcher, but if he had a weakness in his game, it was his pop-time.

            After using the Jaeger bands over the summer, he dropped his pop-time by 0.26, at times getting into the sub 2.0 range. He made the college team and they all use the Jaeger bands daily and I am amazed at just how hard he is throwing right now in want I consider a very short time on the program.

            Currently we are trying to coordinate times when we can get Alan together with our travel ball organization (my younger son) and its many teams. I am sold on this program, with its velocity increases, as well as strengthening and maintaining a health arm and shoulder as another added benefit.

            Great program, definitely look into it,
            MV9
            In memory of "Catchingcoach" - Dave Weaver: February 28, 1955 - June 17, 2011

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Baseball gLove View Post
              He is not about pitching mechanics, but more about arm care and conditioning, plus mental attitude. Funny thing is I noticed my son's mechanics, like getting the plant foot down before firing the ball, improved with the long toss routine.
              Very well said! Obviously your son had to get better at this phase to throw long toss at greater and greater distances, because the position of the hip/torso separation is what creates all the velocity (and thusly, distance).

              Great video. I made a short GIF of what I thought was the most important part of the video:



              I paused it for 1.5 seconds where footstrike occurs (very easy to see). Look how closed off his shoulders are (specifically his back shoulder), while his hips are maximally opened. Furthermore, he is striding "open," or to 11:30-11:45 on a clock's face (for an RHP, so 12:15-12:30 for this LHP) if home plate is considered 12. A lot of advice I've seen involves "striding at the target" or "striding closed," but that can't work because the hips have width and require room to fully clear.

              It looks like his elbow is below the shoulder line at footplant, so Chris O'Leary should be happy.

              This guy remind you anything of him?



              Thanks for posting this, Baseball gLove.

              EDIT: It's important to note that these people throw long distances (and high velocities) because of their mechanics. In other words, long toss in and of itself does not improve velocity, but the mechanical refinements in order to throw long distances do apply to throwing harder on the mound. I hope that makes sense.
              Last edited by kylebee; 05-02-2008, 02:22 AM.
              Owner of Driveline Baseball - Seattle, WA

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              • #8
                kylebee, regarding the striding closed issue- it looks to me that he turns his toe toward the plate about the same time his hip starts to open- maybe a fraction earlier..kind of hard to tell from this clip. At what point does one open the toe?

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                • #9
                  Has anyone purchased his dvd, book, or J-bands yet?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Twitch5 View Post
                    Has anyone purchased his dvd, book, or J-bands yet?
                    Yes, and attended his winter camp for the last three years.

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                    • #11
                      This might be off-topic, but are Alex Merricks and Matt Parris still playing baseball?

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                      • #12
                        Neither are in any minor league system.

                        The thought here is that you can always wonder how much better at pitching they would have been if they had spent those 45 minutes a few times a week on a mound pitching instead of trying to learn how to throw 330 feet.

                        2 more hours a week pitching, changing speeds, hitting corners, throwing fastballs, building the endurance your legs require to be effective for 7-9 innings. 1 pitch a minute. An extra 120 pitches a week added to bullpen work.

                        What if?

                        -scott
                        Last edited by APPpitch; 05-02-2008, 07:11 PM.
                        "There are no miracles in sports. Miracles have been rehearsed hundreds of times in practice." - Scott Waz

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                        • #13
                          Couldnt find if Parris is playing anywhere this year. Merricks is playing in the Frontier League I believe.

                          Merricks put up some pretty terrible numbers in affiliated ball. From 2002-2004 he was 2-2 with a 8.18 ERA in 38 G's. 44 innings pitched 36 hits, 45 runs, 40 earned runs, 2 home runs, 79 walks, 46 strikeouts, and 33 wild pitches. 7.36 H/9, .41 HR/9, 16.16 BB/9, 9.41 K/9, and a WHIP of 2.61.

                          Parris on the other hand didnt pitch too bad while in affiliated ball. You can find them on baseball reference. 24-20 with a 3.81 ERA and a WHIP of 1.38.


                          However, his numbers in Indy ball overall are not too good. 10-17 with a 5.09 ERA. 10.18 H/9, 1.03 HR/9, 4.94 BB/9, 5.71 K/9, and a WHIP of 1.68.

                          So much for the radar gun that Jaeger brought out.

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                          • #14
                            Jaeger came out to UCLA my freshman year and did a demonstration for us. We used his program all year and my arm felt great. I loved stretching out the long toss every day.

                            That being said, I am a position player, not a pitcher, but my arm strength definitely improved with it.
                            Check out my blog: www.notesfromthebag.blogspot.com

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Baseball gLove View Post
                              Yes, and attended his winter camp for the last three years.
                              Anything special about the J-bands? It looks like basic resistance tubing with a clip and some velcro bands.

                              What kind of detail does the DVD go into regarding the stretching and conditioning?


                              Twitch5

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