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    Our U10 team was undeafeted until we lost to the 2nd place team thats been chasing us. The main difference was there top pitcher, who was already pretty fast, got faster and accurate. but our pitching got worse. Our #1 was not throwing for a weak due to some pain. And our #2 and #3 didnt throw strikes. There was a couple of games recently our #2 and #3 didnt throw cuz we worked in #4 and #5 into the games to give them a chance. But now I notice that our #2 and #3 are not as accurate possible due to the lack of throwing.

    So besides the general defence, which should be taken care of by mid season. I think pitching is a main thing to spend time on and take care of as the manager.

    Any other comments for managing teams or pitching for a season?

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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    Our U10 team was undeafeted until we lost to the 2nd place team thats been chasing us. The main difference was there top pitcher, who was already pretty fast, got faster and accurate. but our pitching got worse. Our #1 was not throwing for a weak due to some pain. And our #2 and #3 didnt throw strikes. There was a couple of games recently our #2 and #3 didnt throw cuz we worked in #4 and #5 into the games to give them a chance. But now I notice that our #2 and #3 are not as accurate possible due to the lack of throwing.

    So besides the general defence, which should be taken care of by mid season. I think pitching is a main thing to spend time on and take care of as the manager.

    Any other comments for managing teams or pitching for a season?
    U-10?? Play hard, have fun... I would be more concerned with playing and teaching everyone every position than I would be worried about pitching rotations and pitching strength. I would suspect this is TB?
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    • #3
      I would just encouraging the players to throw some every day maybe. Don't forget that these guys will hit puberty at different times so your stud pitchers will probably change.

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      • #4
        So besides the general defence, which should be taken care of by mid season.

        Quality post games snacks should be nailed down by midseason. And it's time to start thinking about the end of season pool party.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
          U-10?? Play hard, have fun... I would be more concerned with playing and teaching everyone every position than I would be worried about pitching rotations and pitching strength. I would suspect this is TB?
          No, this is just Pony ball, but we have a few TB players on the team. Having everyone learn all the positions would be great, but he coaches are driven by wins. The great thing is, this league allows room for error because you can only score a max of 5 runs per inning except for the last. So the score doesnt really get out of hand.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TG Coach View Post
            Quality post games snacks should be nailed down by midseason. And it's time to start thinking about the end of season pool party.
            I hear that, but the team lacks some unity, the better players tends to pick on the weaker ones. Im not the coach so im not in a real good position to say anything. And the coach praises our TB studs, which have the worst attitudes.

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            • #7
              In all honesty, at this age level, it's hard to expect any kind of consistent pitching. Even the "stud" pitchers are going to have trouble finding the plate at times. I think with 10u pitchers trying too hard to get them accurate will be counterproductive. You want them relaxed, not trying to concentrate on every little piece of their moton.

              Out of curiosity, does your league limit innings at this age? Ours has a 3 inning pitch limit per game (and innings catching counts against this if one of your catchers pitch). 48 hour rest requirement for any player who pitches.

              I ask because you mentioned your #1 pitcher not throwing because of pain. Unless there is overuse (or really bad mechanics I guess), no 10 year old should be in pain from pitching. How much has this kid been throwing?

              Here's a cautionary tale for you...

              In the fall season there was a 10 year old pitcher who I'll call John. For a 10yo, he was a scary fast pitcher. He was an early developer, and looked about 12yo. He had control issues at times, but for the most part just blew the ball past every hitter. The batters were so overmatched that it wasn't even funny.

              So, during one game I had a conversation with John's mother where I was complimenting her on his pitching. She tells me that his father has him "training" every night. John throws at least 75 pitches with his father every night. I was sure she couldn't be right, so I talked with the dad later who confirmed that he was "building up his son's arm" by throwing every night.

              Early this season when John pitched against our team, most of the lineup managed to make pretty good contact. In the middle of the season we put up 10 runs on him in the first 2 innings before he was pulled. Now at the end of the season he isn't able to pitch. He's playing 2nd and underhanding all of his throws. John's mother says he is having surgery on his shoulder at the end of the month. His father thinks he injured it in BP....(SURE)

              You can't make a kid a MLB pitcher at 10 years old, but you can really damage their chances to pitch when they get older.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ralanprod View Post
                Here's a cautionary tale for you...

                In the fall season there was a 10 year old pitcher who I'll call John. For a 10yo, he was a scary fast pitcher. He was an early developer, and looked about 12yo. He had control issues at times, but for the most part just blew the ball past every hitter. The batters were so overmatched that it wasn't even funny.

                So, during one game I had a conversation with John's mother where I was complimenting her on his pitching. She tells me that his father has him "training" every night. John throws at least 75 pitches with his father every night. I was sure she couldn't be right, so I talked with the dad later who confirmed that he was "building up his son's arm" by throwing every night.

                Early this season when John pitched against our team, most of the lineup managed to make pretty good contact. In the middle of the season we put up 10 runs on him in the first 2 innings before he was pulled. Now at the end of the season he isn't able to pitch. He's playing 2nd and underhanding all of his throws. John's mother says he is having surgery on his shoulder at the end of the month. His father thinks he injured it in BP....(SURE)

                You can't make a kid a MLB pitcher at 10 years old, but you can really damage their chances to pitch when they get older.
                This story plays out every year all across the country.
                "He who dares to teach, must never cease to learn."
                - John Cotton Dana (1856–1929) - Offered to many by L. Olson - Iowa (Teacher)
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                • #9
                  Our pitchers can pitch 3 innings only, and there is a catcher claus in there but Im not exactly sure what.
                  But I think thats still alot of pitches. Lets say 5 pitches per batter. and maybe face 5 batters per inning. Thats 75 pitches. I duno too much about pitching, but I'd say thats alot cranking at full speed.


                  What would be a plan for pitcher?
                  Day 1 pitch
                  Day 2 nothing
                  Day 3 light toss
                  Day 4 Pitch or long toss
                  Does this sound reasonable?

                  My son will be 10 next year and maybe pitching. He wants to pitch real bad and Im all for it and you know us over zealous dads, so I wana be ready.
                  Last edited by LAball; 05-03-2008, 10:51 PM.

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                  • #10
                    She tells me that his father has him "training" every night. John throws at least 75 pitches with his father every night. I was sure she couldn't be right, so I talked with the dad later who confirmed that he was "building up his son's arm" by throwing every night.

                    Early this season when John pitched against our team, most of the lineup managed to make pretty good contact. In the middle of the season we put up 10 runs on him in the first 2 innings before he was pulled. Now at the end of the season he isn't able to pitch. He's playing 2nd and underhanding all of his throws. John's mother says he is having surgery on his shoulder at the end of the month. His father thinks he injured it in BP....(SURE)
                    What -- you mean the over-obsessive Dad wouldn't admit that he'd injured his son by his overthrowing? I'm shocked, shocked!

                    When I'm king of the world, Child Protective Services will be allowed to address parenting like this.
                    Last edited by Jake Patterson; 05-04-2008, 10:00 PM. Reason: spelling
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                    • #11
                      Its good to be the King

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LAball View Post
                        Our pitchers can pitch 3 innings only, and there is a catcher claus in there but Im not exactly sure what.
                        But I think thats still alot of pitches. Lets say 5 pitches per batter. and maybe face 5 batters per inning. Thats 75 pitches. I duno too much about pitching, but I'd say thats alot cranking at full speed.


                        What would be a plan for pitcher?
                        Day 1 pitch
                        Day 2 nothing
                        Day 3 light toss
                        Day 4 Pitch or long toss
                        Does this sound reasonable?

                        My son will be 10 next year and maybe pitching. He wants to pitch real bad and Im all for it and you know us over zealous dads, so I wana be ready.
                        At age ten there's no reason a kid can't throw every day to build arm strength. What you don't want him doing is pitching every day. To set up a training plan for a ten year old is overthinking the process.

                        When my son was ten he pitched two innings a week. That's all I allowed 10's to pitch. As a high school freshman he's pitching on the JV team with great movement and good velocity. All the ten year old studs in our area who trained in a regimental fashion to be pitchers are no longer pitching.

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=TG Coach;1181153] To set up a training plan for a ten year old is overthinking the process.
                          QUOTE]

                          But if you dont think have a plan, you can ruin an arm. :dismay:
                          Id rather over plan and be safe then to do it willy nilly and hope for success

                          Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
                          This story plays out every year all across the country.

                          Actualy I dont want my son to be a pitching stud now, I just want him to survive to HS. He's Left handed, so as long as he gets there (HS) I think he;ll get a chance to pitch.
                          Last edited by LAball; 05-04-2008, 08:38 PM.

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                          • #14
                            But if you dont think have a plan, you can ruin an arm.

                            I had a plan for my son. The plan was don't toast his arm before high school. As a preteen player the plan was throw every day. Don't pitch more than two innings per week. As a high school pitcher he throws every day except the day after he pitches. Pitchers hurt their arms because they pitch too much without building arm strength. Throwing builds arm strength.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TG Coach View Post
                              throws every day except the day after he pitches.
                              I agree, but its hard in the winter due to darkness and baseball season is right after it. Thats why I posted a "light ball" thread so I can throw in the winter time. But no one is paying attention to it.:dismay:

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