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  • Best single weight exercise for baseball pitchers!

    As a two time World Record Holder and two time Olympic javelin thrower I have found this to be the best single resistance exerise for me. I am now 46 years old, been competing for 35 years, and never had any problems with my shoulder or elbow - nothing - no surgery - ever.

    I have been clocked at 100mph throwing a baseball back in the mid 80's. Just a few months ago whilst throwing a golf ball as a demonstration it has beed estimated my release speed might have been as high as 112mph.!!!!!



    This is the dumbbell pullover I do:



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKtdkXUJ_sc



    I swim, do lot of stretchings and medicine balls exericses too for a well balanced workout program.

    I will be posting other videos showing some special stretches and medicine ball exercises in the next few months.



    With better training I believe most injuries and surgeries are avoidable.

  • #2
    Don't forget that what may work for YOU very well doesn't necessarily make it work well for everybody. I'm very aware of the muscle groups that this exercise can target in it's various forms of doing it and I wouldn't put this on the short list of exercises that were heavy hitters.

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    • #3
      I've seen this guy posting all of a sudden on a number of forums the past couple days--seems kinda fishy. I'd be very leary of his recommendations based upon some of the videos I've seen so far................
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      • #4
        He’s throwing the Marshall torque fastball with 125 lbs. Wo.

        He better not slip or his dome will look like one of those weights.

        Interesting, I did the same thing with an Iron 6 lb iron ball by casting it
        About 10 inches from my hand then catching it, before I made my rebound wall.
        Primum non nocere

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        • #5
          I don't know if it's a useful exercise, but he really loses form during the last 3 reps, which is never a good thing.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by roald62 View Post
            As a two time World Record Holder and two time Olympic javelin thrower I have found this to be the best single resistance exerise for me. I am now 46 years old, been competing for 35 years, and never had any problems with my shoulder or elbow - nothing - no surgery - ever.

            I have been clocked at 100mph throwing a baseball back in the mid 80's. Just a few months ago whilst throwing a golf ball as a demonstration it has beed estimated my release speed might have been as high as 112mph.!!!!!



            This is the dumbbell pullover I do:



            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKtdkXUJ_sc



            I swim, do lot of stretchings and medicine balls exericses too for a well balanced workout program.

            I will be posting other videos showing some special stretches and medicine ball exercises in the next few months.



            With better training I believe most injuries and surgeries are avoidable.
            You swim? I was a swimmer for almost 15 years - I started swimming competitively at 4 and finished when I graduated from HS. I can confidently say that swimming SINGLE-HANDEDLY was responsible for keeping not only my arm, but my entire body, in the top condition it was throughout my entire athletic career (in my opinion, there is no harder sport - and I've done the 3-a-days for football, played roller-hockey in 85 deg heat, and ridden a 30 mile bike race in 95 deg heat). To give you an idea of how good of shape, (I've lost a lot of it since) I was 5'6" 150 lbs and could bench 265 lbs and squat over 450 lbs x20 - and I RARELY "worked out" - swimming or playing whatever sport I was playing at the time was usually enough.
            Knowing that, I think I can also confidently say that your swimming is also probably the reason for your arms health more so than the weight excercise - as good as it may/may not be.
            Last edited by StraightGrain11; 05-07-2008, 07:48 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by roald62 View Post
              As a two time World Record Holder and two time Olympic javelin thrower I have found this to be the best single resistance exerise for me. I am now 46 years old, been competing for 35 years, and never had any problems with my shoulder or elbow - nothing - no surgery - ever.

              I have been clocked at 100mph throwing a baseball back in the mid 80's. Just a few months ago whilst throwing a golf ball as a demonstration it has beed estimated my release speed might have been as high as 112mph.!!!!!



              This is the dumbbell pullover I do:



              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKtdkXUJ_sc



              I swim, do lot of stretchings and medicine balls exericses too for a well balanced workout program.

              I will be posting other videos showing some special stretches and medicine ball exercises in the next few months.



              With better training I believe most injuries and surgeries are avoidable.
              Any pitcher reading this - please ignore - this is nothing but spam.
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              • #8
                Excuse me... this was and is not spam!

                I have watched numerous athletes over the years hurt themselves through poor training, lack of warm up and a general misunderstanding of the throwing movement.

                I seems to be just excepted that surgeries are just what happen!

                In the video I posted it shows me doing to pullover with quite a bit of weight. That is after doing it for decades and 9 months of building /cycling up to it. To be clear: I am not suggesting that pitchers start using that much weight - that would be dangerous and ridiculas. I believe the exercise is the best single weight exercise there is - period.

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                • #9
                  Fair enough. I disagree.

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                  • #10
                    You disagree with.....

                    the exercise?

                    or the weight I am using?

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                    • #11
                      roald62.

                      Some are listening. This training mechanic would be considered inside of vertical with a pitching motion the way Marshall mechanic pitchers drive the ball and since traditional mechanic pitcher drive the ball outside of vertical which is injurious this would even help them and maybe push them to inside better involuntarily.

                      Have you thought about designing a better ergonomically safe weight rather than using dumbbells designed for a different training mechanic?

                      Your claims of hand velocity would be enhanced if people knew who you were, I for one will always listen to what a world class athlete has to say about their training.
                      Primum non nocere

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by roald62 View Post
                        the exercise?

                        or the weight I am using?
                        The exercise. It is a good exercise as part of a program but I wouldn't go anywhere near "best exercise". Looking at the major muscles involved with the variations of this exercise, as well as the effective minor muscles involved I wouldn't give it a "best exercise".

                        Your weight is up to you to properly control and of course is relative.

                        Many of the old time bodybuilders used to think this exercise would expand their ribcages to have more room to back on muscle. They would dip their rumps at the bottom of the rep to get a bigger stretch. Most now say the exercise WON'T expand your ribcage but some still feel it does. With heavy weights.

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                        • #13
                          Roald, maybe it would help if you described WHY you think the pullover is the best exercise. Also, can you detail your experiences working with pitchers?

                          Dirt, I'm sure MM would think that dumbbell pullovers will only make you better at doing dumbbell pullovers, not better at pitching.........
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dirtberry View Post
                            roald62.

                            Some are listening. This training mechanic would be considered inside of vertical with a pitching motion the way Marshall mechanic pitchers drive the ball and since traditional mechanic pitcher drive the ball outside of vertical which is injurious this would even help them and maybe push them to inside better involuntarily.

                            Have you thought about designing a better ergonomically safe weight rather than using dumbbells designed for a different training mechanic?

                            Your claims of hand velocity would be enhanced if people knew who you were, I for one will always listen to what a world class athlete has to say about their training.
                            Nautilus had a machine that supposedly replaced this dumbell exercise though I never felt it did as good a job. I've done this exercise and would either use a dumbell or an ez-curl bar depending on the day.

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                            • #15
                              I'd like to hear why as well.

                              Although any exercise that does not involve the lower body, or standing for that matter, simply can't be "the best" exercise for a ballplayer.
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