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    when teaching LL 9/10 do you have them follow the throw or circle back?

  • #2
    follow,,teach them to make 1 throw..teach them to get the runner moving as fast as he can and make 1 throw..teach em right ,right away

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    • #3
      thats what we have been doing but I was on this website today and it said to circle back and I may have mis understood the drill so I wanted to clarify.

      http://www.webball.com
      Last edited by callyjr; 05-14-2008, 12:16 PM.

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      • #4
        The "rule" is to follow your throw if you have travelled half way or more to the base, otherwise circle back. The exception is to be aware and break the rule if a base is left uncovered by a mentally sleepy teammate. Most importantly, get out of the running path as soon as you release the ball.

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        • #5
          Keep the ball high and don't fake the throw.

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          • #6
            In theory it should take no more then three throws to get someone out. At most. In reality at times it takes more. Use the "half way or more" rule on it but each player has to determine which way they go "depending".

            Above all know that if you chase a kid back to where he was and he is safe, then that is FAR better then cutting it too close to the next base and letting them be safe. Play patty-cake near the originating base, not the next base.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by callyjr View Post
              thats what we have been doing but I was on this website today and it said to circle back and I may have mis understood the drill so I wanted to clarify.

              http://www.webball.com
              Webball is wrong. Follow the throw.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
                Webball is wrong. Follow the throw.
                How about when you are only 1/3 of the way to the other bag?

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                • #9
                  In theory it should take no more then three throws to get someone out.

                  It should take zero or one throw. The player with the ball runs full speed at the runner. The runner is committed to run away from the fielder. The fielder either catches the runner and tags him or flips a throw to the fielder the runner is running towards for the tag.

                  At low levels of play where you may be reluctant to run the base runner to the next base it takes one or two throws. This is because the first throw is to get the ball ahead of the runner and force him to run back to the previous base. At older levels the fielders have good enough arms to throw out the trailing runner trying to advance after the tag.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CoachHenry View Post
                    How about when you are only 1/3 of the way to the other bag?
                    Still follow. Half of the reason we teach kids this is to establish a flow to the process. The goals are of course is to first run the runner back, get the out and make one throw.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
                      Still follow. Half of the reason we teach kids this is to establish a flow to the process. The goals are of course is to first run the runner back, get the out and make one throw.
                      Right, of course. And with the younger kids I think I would stick to the follow the ball. As they got older maybe different. For example for a first/second pickle after the SS or 2B made the first throw they roved around half way. More often then not he was the one who got the throw and made the tag.

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                      • #12
                        At the age you are talking about, I would worry about two things only:

                        1. Get the ball to the advancing base first
                        2. That player then sprints as fast as he can at the runner to tag or make ONE throw only.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Swing Coach View Post
                          At the age you are talking about, I would worry about two things only:

                          1. Get the ball to the advancing base first
                          2. That player then sprints as fast as he can at the runner to tag or make ONE throw only.
                          Again, that is the goal. This starts becoming a problem when the players get to the big field and three or four throws is not uncommon, even at the HS level. Here are the notes from a previous clinic. This would be definately modified or added to for big field running, but it may help some.

                          TLL Coaches Clinic Base Running and Run Downs.DOC
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
                            Again, that is the goal. This starts becoming a problem when the players get to the big field and three or four throws is not uncommon, even at the HS level. Here are the notes from a previous clinic. This would be definately modified or added to for big field running, but it may help some.

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                            Three or four throws means the kids aren't doing it right. The bigger field doesn't mean more throws. The bigger fielder usually means more talented kids who can do it right.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TG Coach View Post
                              Three or four throws means the kids aren't doing it right. The bigger field doesn't mean more throws. The bigger fielder usually means more talented kids who can do it right.
                              theres a right way and an inefficient way to do it on BOTH size fields...bigger fields same technique...1 throw at most if you can.

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