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  • LAball
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    This is an old thread by now. But I didnt know exactly how to put my feelings into words about this thread. First, I think the reason you cant hit the curve balls is because you have no adjustability in the swing. I've read somewhere that the swing is a 2 engine fire. Im not exactly sure what others mean by it, but this is my take. You cant hit curve balls because you have a 1 engine fire. I feel 2 engine fire allows for adjustability. The first engine fires and give the bat the so running start, get the bat moveing. Then the second engine fires, during the firing of the second engine, the batter can adjust the bat head. And thats how you hit a curveball....... maybe.

    I have a lot of respect for many posters at BBF, but telling him to basically give up hitting curveballs and hit fastballs sounds like ... well... hrm. Sounds like not being true to the faith of striving batter. I dont even know if that makes since. I do understand that hitting fastballs is a realistic answer though, because you aint gana be able to explain the details of the perfect swing. Heck many of us cant even agree on what is the perfect swing, let alone explaining it.

    I felt that saying ignore the curveball, was like saying just forget it kid, cuz it aint gana happen, drops the spirit of BBF. But I guess its a realist answer unfortunately

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  • Nater44
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    Originally posted by baseballer6 View Post
    Hi, I've been hitting fine all season but all of a sudden I can't hit a curveball to save my life. It looks like I'm going to hit it but then I just swing right over top of it. Does anyone know any drills to help this. I know my swing plane needs to be more of an uppercut when hitting a curveball but I still cant manage to hit it.
    I took this posting to heart and decided to write an article on it to help others who have similar thoughts understand a bit more of what we have been saying. Here is the ARTICLE

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  • rkbenn
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    Keep your weight back, that's usually the biggest problem.

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  • jbooth
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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    Thats a very good description for me to understand. Do you have any more for other pitches?

    If I am a batter with a right hand pitcher, the slider spins counter-clock wise?
    Yes. And each pitch has a different speed. The slider is usually about 6 - 8 mph slower than the fastball, and the curve is 12 - 14 mph slower than the fastball.

    Fastball 90mph
    Slider 83mph
    Curve 76

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  • StraightGrain11
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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    Thats a very good description for me to understand. Do you have any more for other pitches?

    If I am a batter with a right hand pitcher, the slider spins counter-clock wise?
    Yes, the spin will be counterclockwise.
    For other pitches...see, that's what makes a change-up such a nasty pitch, there is NO DIFFERENCE between its spin and the spin of a fastball, they look pretty much identical (about the only difference you might notice - if your eyes are insanely good - is a little bit of spin opposite that of a curveball's, from the hard pronation; but even that I highly doubt you would be able detect).
    Last edited by StraightGrain11; 05-28-2008, 12:03 AM.

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  • LAball
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    Originally posted by Go Cardinals View Post
    Why don't you play in an adult league? You obviously love the game!
    ahh, dont say that , its too tempting...
    I am at BBF for my son 9 year old lefty. I have concentrated mostly on his hitting, but next year he will be pitching, maybe, so i gata learn it.

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  • Go Cardinals
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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    about 20 years ago.:silent:
    Why don't you play in an adult league? You obviously love the game!

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  • LAball
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    Originally posted by Go Cardinals View Post
    when was your last at bat?
    about 20 years ago.:silent:

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  • Go Cardinals
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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    Thats a very good description for me to understand. Do you have any more for other pitches?

    If I am a batter with a right hand pitcher, the slider spins counter-clock wise?
    when was your last at bat?

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  • Go Cardinals
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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    I dont play baseball, but for those that do, especially in HS, can you really read the spin on the ball while batting?
    With poor eyesight like me, I can even read it.

    Without contacts I'm 20/30 and 20/50, with I'm 20/15 20/15

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  • LAball
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    Originally posted by jbooth View Post
    A fastball rotates from the ground up, (bottom of ball coming at you and up), a curve rotates basically sky to ground, (top of ball coming at you and down), and a slider spins like a bullet, or some people say like a cement mixer coming at you.
    Thats a very good description for me to understand. Do you have any more for other pitches?

    If I am a batter with a right hand pitcher, the slider spins counter-clock wise?

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  • jbooth
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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    I dont play baseball, but for those that do, especially in HS, can you really read the spin on the ball while batting?
    Heck yes. If you can't, you need to go to the eye doctor, and if the doc says your eyes are good and you still can't pick up the spin, you need to play a different sport, because you'll never hit very well.

    Most MLB hitters have BETTER than 20-20 vision and above average depth-perception and above average reflexes or reaction time. Some can see the angle of the pitcher's wrist as he lets go (I never could), and ALL can pick up the spin very soon after release, (even I can do that.)

    You have to see a few of the pitcher's pitches before you get good at hitting the breaking stuff, not all curves and sliders move the same. After you see a few you basically have to read the pitch and then swing at where you anticipate it to end up at contact point. Curves are slower so if you're looking for one, and have seen it before, you can wait on it and hit it. Sliders are tougher, because they break later and are moving faster. Of course a fastball with good movement is the toughest, it is coming very fast and moves very late.

    A fastball rotates from the ground up, (bottom of ball coming at you and up), a curve rotates basically sky to ground, (top of ball coming at you and down), and a slider spins like a bullet, or some people say like a cement mixer coming at you.
    Last edited by jbooth; 05-27-2008, 04:41 PM.

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  • StraightGrain11
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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    Can it be easily done? Woud a batter pick up the spin on every pitch? This starts at U10, U14, HS?
    Should be something you're pretty much always able to do. A curveball (or "breaking" pitch) has a very distinctive spin to it - the seams will create a "circle" or a "red dot" on the ball that is VERY noticeable.
    Last edited by StraightGrain11; 05-27-2008, 10:40 PM.

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  • LAball
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    Originally posted by kylebee View Post
    Yes. Picking out the spin on the pitch as it is released is important.
    Can it be easily done? Woud a batter pick up the spin on every pitch? This starts at U10, U14, HS?

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  • kylebee
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    Originally posted by LAball View Post
    I dont play baseball, but for those that do, especially in HS, can you really read the spin on the ball while batting?
    Yes. Picking out the spin on the pitch as it is released is important.

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