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  • Yeager Split-Grip and ULL

    The ULL hitters were using Yeager's spilt grip today on Espn. I know that he worked with them last year. Did any of you see this?

  • #2
    Originally posted by FanRuth714 View Post
    The ULL hitters were using Yeager's spilt grip today on Espn. I know that he worked with them last year. Did any of you see this?
    I didn't see what you are referring to, but am familiar with Yeager's split grip drill. It falls under the classification of his bat whip drills. My students perform this drill regularly.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by FanRuth714 View Post
      The ULL hitters were using Yeager's spilt grip today on Espn. I know that he worked with them last year. Did any of you see this?
      I've never heard of this. Is it a method or a product? Link me!

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      • #4
        5Frame-

        The game is still on--check it out--The commentators discussed it earlier.

        Henry-this is Yeager's site---He has a facility near New Orleans

        'www.DrYeagersBaseball.com

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FanRuth714 View Post
          5Frame-

          The game is still on--check it out--The commentators discussed it earlier.

          Henry-this is Yeager's site---He has a facility near New Orleans

          'www.DrYeagersBaseball.com
          Thank you.

          Score is 2-2 in the 5-inning.

          Commentators are discussing other aspects.

          Dr. Chris Yeager's sent me some material in which he showed the training of one of the ULL players ... so yes, he has worked with at least one of these players.

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          • #6
            I use Yeager's split grip drills as well---and I have seen some of the ULL practice DVDs also---good stuff..

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            • #7
              The commentators also talked about how one of the ULL players used a leather utility(carpenters) glove in addition to the split-grip. I wonder if Yeager teaches this as well?

              In all seriousness... I did notice where at least two or three ULL players had a somewhat awkward stance/set-up. They seemed to hunch or roll their shoulders forward AND also had a very pronounced raised rear elbow. Just wondering if this is something that Yeager teaches?


              Twitch5

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              • #8
                what is the point of yeager's split grip drill?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FanRuth714 View Post
                  The ULL hitters were using Yeager's spilt grip today on Espn. I know that he worked with them last year. Did any of you see this?
                  Well that makes at least four of the well known names who's brains he has picked. I expect he's studied them all. IME Mike listens to everyone and makes up his own mind.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FanRuth714 View Post
                    I use Yeager's split grip drills as well---and I have seen some of the ULL practice DVDs also---good stuff..

                    Where can you find the ULL practice DVD's?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BallCoach06 View Post
                      Where can you find the ULL practice DVD's?
                      I don't think Yeager sells them....he sent me one as a favor...

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                      • #12
                        Well that makes at least four of the well known names who's brains he has picked. I expect he's studied them all. IME Mike listens to everyone and makes up his own mind.
                        Aaahhh, finally, a voice of reason! One of the best posts, possibly THE best you've ever written, Marcus, and I commend you for it. That's a big improvement over "read Dixon, go to EH.com."

                        Marks's quote above is something everyone should be doing, IMO. IOW, keep studying, searching, and continuing to learn.

                        By the way, Mike Lotief is a great person and coach, and a smart guy. His hitting method works at the highest level of D1 fastpitch. Here's to the Rajin Cajuns going all the way!

                        Mike
                        Last edited by Slapper23; 05-30-2008, 04:56 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Go Cardinals View Post
                          what is the point of yeager's split grip drill?
                          The “split grip” drill is classified as a bat whip drill. In summary it accentuates the functionality of the top-hand and bottom-hand. As the lead-arm decelerates into contact the top-hand throws past the bottom-hand.

                          Remember that the baseball swing is a series of accelerating and decelerating body segments. The split grip drill helps emphasize the functionality of the hands in this regard.
                          Last edited by FiveFrameSwing; 05-30-2008, 06:50 AM.

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                          • #14
                            bottom line:

                            splitting the grip accentuates the torque and forces it to be applied early.

                            even in golf, handle torque is essential to overcome inertia affecting the hinge angle/club position.

                            http://www.tutelman.com/golf/design/swing1.php?ref=

                            This golf author [Tutelman] uses typical golf terminology to call a golfer with this minimum of handle torque a "swinger" whereas he notes that others apply more torque at the handle more actively, called "hitters".



                            "So Jorgensen's [author of PHYSICS OF GOLF]model isn't quite a simple double pendulum. The figure shows the changes he had to make to the simple model in order to get it to behave exactly like the real golfer. He has to insert a right-angle "stop" so that the wrist-cock never exceeds 90º. And he had to put a little "sway" into the golfer -- a small forward motion of the shoulder hinge during the downswing."

                            "A swinger is a golfer who depends exclusively on centrifugal force for clubhead speed, and adds no wrist torque during the downswing except that needed to hold a 90º wrist cock.
                            A hitter is a golfer who depends to some extent on torque applied to the club's grip via the hands and the wrists"


                            BASEBALL hitters need to have a LOT of handle torque to implement the MLB pattern which is necessary for the combo of limited reaction time and wood bat. This requires using the hands in a separate/torquing action, not using the hands as a single hinge as in the golf grip.


                            again,


                            splitting the grip accentuates the torque and forces it to be applied early.

                            early torque (before shoulders TILT which is before hip turn works up to turn the shoulders which therefore creates more torso loading/stretch and fire) creates more resistance of the upper body which keeps the hands back and accentuates better/later/quicker torso strecth (separation).

                            The early handle torquing also involves an arm action that triggers mirrored action in the legs which then lets the upper body set limits for lower body weight shift and rotation.

                            handle torque, then has a very powerful "triple effect" (at least)-

                            running start overcoming barrell inertia
                            keeping hands back
                            controlling creation of better timed and directed body coil/adjustment of matching impact zone.

                            AKA "early batspeed".

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