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  • #31
    It is hard to separate weight shift and lead arm control and extension.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Mark H
      That too. Whatever it may look like to you, I'm telling you the words "lead arm extension" are liable to produce nothing at all like you want if you aren't standing in front of the kid making sure. But then some dad watching and listening to you goes and teaches his whole little league team something like what you see in this clip. I try to choose verbiage with the least likely chance for misinterpretation.

      I understand. But I would never have a conversation with somebody online, tell them to get some lead arm extension, without providing a picture of what I'm talking about. This is also, why I give private lessons, with the kid standing in front of me.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by swingbuster
        It is hard to separate weight shift and lead arm control and extension.

        Talk about confusing somebody. If you said this to a professional hitter he would look at you like you are crazy.

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        • #34
          I find Tom and Swingbuster fuzzy and I've been studying this stuff to a fault for more years than I remember. Almost as many as Tom I think. We discussed Hanson's rule #2 last night at dinner. If it sounds fuzzy and amorphous, it's probably horsepuckey.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mark H
            I find Tom and Swingbuster fuzzy and I've been studying this stuff to a fault for more years than I remember. Almost as many as Tom I think. We discussed Hanson's rule #2 last night at dinner. If it sounds fuzzy and amorphous, it's probably horsepuckey.

            Well I must say I've tried really hard Buster and Tom, and most of what I read from you comes out fuzzy and amorphous.

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            • #36
              This site has become SetPro with all the players and characteristics and a new leader that even writes like the old one. It is all about commercial support

              Keep the DVD , keep the PCR


              I'm done............a waste of all our time and the readers time.

              You can be cheerleaders for each other...have fun
              Last edited by swingbuster; 03-14-2006, 08:28 PM.

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              • #37
                Maybe, or maybe you still have something to learn.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by swingbuster
                  This site has become SetPro with all the players and characteristics and a new leader that even writes like the old one. It is all about commercial support

                  Keep the DVD , keep the PCR


                  I'm done............a waste of all our time and the readers time.

                  You can be cheerleaders for each other...have fun
                  How 'bout the sandbox. Are we allowed to keep that too? Or should we have it relocated to the watering hole?
                  Last edited by 4for4; 03-14-2006, 08:46 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 4for4
                    How 'bout the sandbox. Are we allowed to keep that too? Or should we have it relocated to the watering hole?
                    Did you get the clip?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by swingbuster
                      This site has become SetPro...
                      Okay, there are many people who post regularly here that agree on many things. But, i would like to add that if it is able to be proven with the aid of pictures/video (preferably video) then it easier to argue any particular point.

                      No matter how hard anyone here tries, words just do not convey, with as much accuracy, the point as intended necessarily.

                      The Real 'issue' here is that there are people in different camps, both sides thinking they only are right, and others are plain wrong. As hard as it is to read and respond to, sometimes, for people, i really feel that the discussion, and sometimes very heated discussion, can be VERY beneficial for the 'others' here that don't live, eat, breathe this stuff.

                      And even if the 'others' don't get it, it can benefit the people arguing, in that they must be very descriptive in thier text or use visual aids etc. to get the appropriate point across, and not cause confusion.

                      I would urge all those that think that this site is to one way to continue to do what they do, and for those that get somewhat harsh to be harsh in different ways to keep it fresh!
                      "Do not dismiss what you do not understand"
                      "A word to the wise ain't necessary. It's the stupid ones who need the advice." - Bill Cosby
                      "There are sound intellectual grounds for holding faith positions" - Fungo 22

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                      • #41
                        that's quite a nice swing for the little guy. Better than mine! I wish I had someone at that age to teach me the correct way to swing

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                        • #42
                          What's with the high back elbow? I thought we were getting away from that "softball" junk. It's a distraction and offers no advantage to a hitter. Many of the pro ballplayers that I have talked to have told me that it's the worst thing they were taught in Little League.
                          Baseball Drills

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                          • #43
                            What's with the high back elbow?
                            If you are talking about the 6 YO hitter, I think his elbow is about the correct height. What is going on w/ the rear shoulder horizontally is probably more important than the elbow heighth, though.

                            Regards,

                            Scott

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                            • #44
                              I'm done............a waste of all our time and the readers time.
                              Reconsider this, Donny. Keep reading, pick your spots, use video and photos to support your points, and grow w/ the rest of us. Sure, you are often a minority opinion. So what? Truth exists as an entity to itself. If you're convinced you have found it, don't give up because others disagree.

                              Reading your stuff over the past few months, it seems to me that you have evolved your beliefs. Suspect some influences here have been a factor. I would assume that has value to you?

                              As for commercial influence, no one here benefits by so much as a penny if Steve sells a CD. While he does have a commercial interest, so do you and Erik. I don't think anyone begrudges that - I hope not, anyway.

                              Best wishes,

                              Scott

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                              • #45
                                Mackie

                                HG,

                                I would like to take a minute to respond to Mackie and my original post.

                                Certainly I was not meaning to be at all critical of anything with this little guys' swing.

                                When I posted the "full treatment" it was in fun and just wanted him, his Dad?, or whoever to know that we / I are looking at him and anxious to see his progress. He is not in "good hands" he is in "great hands"....

                                It was stated earlier (Mr. U) that he wished he had someone to help him learn to swing at a young age. Starting with (as some of us know) our kids at a later age.....well I think many of us think "If I knew then (earlier) what I think I know now, how much better chance would my son / daughter have, of being a better hitter.

                                My point is-----my intent was nothing other than encouragement, letting him know people here are interested in seeing him progress.

                                To me, the fun is not only playing, but learning to become good at it. That's real fun.

                                Most Sincerely,
                                LClifton

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