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    This is a clip of a player I'm working with. I'm just looking for other opinions of her swing

  • #2
    Pretty good job...explain the interuption in the flow,

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    • #3
      I see the parts. I see a youngster thinking and trying. That is a good start. Make the parts look like one move.

      I question whether the center is the power pack. Looks like she's just doing something with the lower body until it's time for her arms to swing. She's not a unit yet.

      That little bit of foot opening kills her. She loses her ability to "close the gate".

      From this angle I would say the posture isn't the best. Were all the pitches high? If so maybe that is why she gets erect so early. She has a tilt but loses it early. Again, I could be dead wrong on this. The view given can be confusing.

      I'm a new medicus bat fan. It might fix a lot and save some time. I talked with Steve yesterday about my son and how his better mental image of what needed to take place fixed quite a bit on it's own.

      That mental image had been explained to him for oh,...4-5 years. What I was saying isn't necessarily what he was hearing.

      But......what medicus requires saves many words and hours.

      How old? How long you been working with her?
      Last edited by Ohfor; 03-22-2006, 05:24 PM.

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      • #4
        That high rear elbow is more comfortable with the bat splitting helmet usually. Binding the top wrist and not natural in the neck slot or lower IMO

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        • #5
          From this angle I would say the posture isn't the best. Were all the pitches high? If so maybe that is why she gets erect so early. She has a tilt but loses it early. Again, I could be dead wrong on this. The view given can be confusing.


          How old? How long you been working with her?[/QUOTE]

          She is 15 and I've been working with her for a couple of months only on weekends as part of our team. Not a lot of individual time. This was a pitch above the waist. She has decent posture. I've noticed the 2 part swing but didn't know if it was that much of a problem. She strides soooooo early its almost like a no stride swing (I hope that makes sense)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CoachZee
            She strides soooooo early its almost like a no stride swing (I hope that makes sense)
            Yeah, that makes sense, the only thing is though, her momentum is to early as well, there is a stride (kinda useless), then a shift, and then unfortunately late, a swing. At least gotta get the shift and turn part better timed, just throwing the leg out early (while not my favorite idea) isn't so bad.
            "Do not dismiss what you do not understand"
            "A word to the wise ain't necessary. It's the stupid ones who need the advice." - Bill Cosby
            "There are sound intellectual grounds for holding faith positions" - Fungo 22

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            • #7
              She appears to be slotting her elbow which creates some bat lag/early disconnection at the beginning of her shoulder rotation. Just a quick observation.

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              • #8
                OK. Let's take it as a nostride swing.

                Here is my recipe...

                #1) You must swing from your center. To get her to understand this have her squat down as if to jump, (don't need a bat for this) feet as wide as in her "after stride" position, and have her rotate or twist as she raises up to jump, but don't jump. Keep the lead leg anchored with a closed front foot to provide a stable base to rotate from. This may not be exactly what you do in a swing, but it's close, and it will help get the feel of using your center. Do this powerfully. Quickly. Aggressively. With intent. As if to hurt someone. Get her to understand that this move (or something very similar) starts the swing. Have her think "turn the belly button" very aggressively to the pitcher as the first move.

                #2) Teach her to keep the bat perpendicular to the spine as she swings. Looks like you may have already done this.

                #3) Experiment with where to put the bat so that when the "go" signal comes, and that rotation of the lower body starts, the bat rotates immediately. You will probably spend as much time here as anywhere. Connection is the most difficult to find in my experience. I recommend a medicus bat to help here.

                As she starts to get this down, test her with quick pitches from a machine that throws the ball right down the middle waist high or slightly above consistently. She doesn't need to make adjustments yet. The goal, at first, is not to hit the ball. The goal is to take a series of good swings at or near the ball with approximate timing. Of course, if that is easy for her....have her hit the ball.....but keep the swing right.

                I would study this clip and see if you can duplicate it. With or without the stride.



                Get these base moves down, then we'll add some more.
                Last edited by Ohfor; 03-22-2006, 06:23 PM.

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                • #9
                  The simpler thing would be Do what the girl in the image does

                  Hey IGMO the girl made a complete hip turn ...more than I can say for most clips here.

                  All she needs is to coil her hips as she strides and use the stride momentum to power her uncoil into the ball. My Goodness...you cannot even see what the girl you posted does.

                  Then her MAMA can do your jump up and down drill when she hits a HR

                  Get these base moves down, then we'll add some more
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                  In what century.

                  Ted Williams said hips at only 80-85%. Turn like heck does NOT fit with high level swing. You need to not rush at beginning of swing (inward turn/start on time) and you need to not rush down from the top.
                  Last edited by swingbuster; 03-22-2006, 06:49 PM.

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                  • #10
                    dead bug

                    I don't like that dead bug under her back foot. The UCLA girl's backfoot is almost weightless at impact...

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                    • #11
                      What is your point?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by swingbuster

                        Hey IGMO the girl made a complete hip turn ...more than I can say for most clips here.

                        .
                        Maybe that's because none of the clips posted on here are your students. Why is that?

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                        • #13
                          dead bug

                          I just do not like the school of thought that says: Spin on your back foot, squish the bug, set back, etc.
                          Benyi has her momentum generating forward (forward by turning I'd bet you'd say OhFor)... This gives her a weightless back foot at impact (or nearly weightless).
                          In the first clip to me it looks like, stride; wait; spin on the back foot, while upper body seems out of synch. Not trying to be harsh on the kiddo taking the cut.... I'd just like to smoothe her out

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                          • #14
                            I thought you were saying Benyi was squishing the bug.

                            Gotcha.

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                            • #15
                              back knee thing

                              Coach Zee:
                              Is she trying to do that Tom Emanski "back knee thing"???... take a look you guys and see...
                              OhFor:
                              Would you go right to the medicus in the cage or go short toss, tees, etc. first??

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