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  • If it was a setpro site, you would be gone. As for changing, Steve changed my thinking as have others using video of the best in the world. So who were on the other sites? SB or some other troll? Having been around, I would think you would know more but then maybe you do and you are just baiting me. After all, my motivation is to steer people away from bad info and toward good. If that makes me vulnerable to the ocassional troll, I can live with that.

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    • Originally posted by Mark H
      If it was a setpro site, you would be gone. As for changing, Steve changed my thinking as have others using video of the best in the world. So who were on the other sites? SB or some other troll? Having been around, I would think you would know more but then maybe you do and you are just baiting me. After all, my motivation is to steer people away from bad info and toward good. If that makes me vulnerable to the ocassional troll, I can live with that.
      Oh good gawd. Bow down to the one you serve.

      Again, who's site am I trolling (if that is what I was doing).

      Obviously diverting from the posts I made earlier on balance, etc. Tough to get beaten down so bad isn't it?

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      • Jimmiemac ,do you know what my background is in terms of playing experience?

        Or my experience as a trainer of relatively elite athletes [non-baseball/softball]?

        steve

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        • Originally posted by Steve Englishbey
          Jimmiemac ,do you know what my background is in terms of playing experience?

          Or my experience as a trainer of relatively elite athletes [non-baseball/softball]?

          steve
          Yes I do and again first sentance emphasis. Thanks for your confirmation.

          Follow-up:

          Here is your sentence I have objected to. Maybe you want to revisit, maybe not, but I firmly believe you wanted to make a point that you did not prove in your following statements:

          I think that one of the main reasons why many coaches [at the high school level down] want the back elbow down is because of the problem of batdrag ,ie external rotation of the back arm to initiate the movement ,to "whip the bat",to overcome the inertia of the bat.{Most do not know the mechanical and psycho-physical realities of bat drag----but they know it when they see it ---and they see it alot in many young hitters.]

          As you will see in my posts, I do not have any problem with the comments that followed, except that they were completely dicoonnected from the first. I don't think most HS coaches or below teach the elbow down because of anything related to bat drag. We can battle that issue until hell rises forth because until either of us does an extensive study on the subject there will be no proof, but I firmly believe you were consciencely or sub-conscienclely making an unfounded point in your message. The unfounded point part I can prove because you have no foundation for your point beyond "I believe" and i think you wanted to emphasize that point and so made it part of your opening sentence.

          You have many defenders here and that is good, but don't knock down the coaches working every day with kids because they love the game and teach what they know best. You (and I) could probably learn a few things from them even today after your many years of experience.
          Last edited by jimmiemac; 05-09-2006, 10:00 PM.

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          • Now that's funny. You don't want someone to knock people down. Good one.

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            • Originally posted by jimmiemac
              I think that one of the main reasons why many coaches [at the high school level down] want the back elbow down is because of the problem of batdrag ,ie external rotation of the back arm to initiate the movement ,to "whip the bat",to overcome the inertia of the bat.{Most do not know the mechanical and psycho-physical realities of bat drag----but they know it when they see it ---and they see it alot in many young hitters.]

              As you will see in my posts, I do not have any problem with the comments that followed, except that they were completely dicoonnected from the first. I don't think most HS coaches or below teach the elbow down because of anything related to bat drag. We can battle that issue until hell rises forth because until either of us does an extensive study on the subject there will be no proof, but I firmly believe you were consciencely or sub-conscienclely making an unfounded point in your message. The unfounded point part I can prove because you have no foundation for your point beyond "I believe" and i think you wanted to emphasize that point and so made it part of your opening sentence.

              You have many defenders here and that is good, but don't knock down the coaches working every day with kids because they love the game and teach what they know best. You (and I) could probably learn a few things from them even today after your many years of experience.
              Two questions. How does the quoted part of your statement disparage the coaches mentioned?

              Why do you believe these coaches teach elbow down?

              I personally have no real stake in this, I have know idea why anyone teaches elbows anywhere, but I am curious why this upsets you.

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              • Originally posted by Mark H
                Now that's funny. You don't want someone to knock people down. Good one.
                Markie, markie, markie. Sarcacism befuddles you, so lets stick to facts. You have yet to show me anywhere , anyhow what I am saying is incorrect, but continue to resort to ill-funded attacks on me. Lets go after it big guy. Tell me again an athlete's definition of balance?

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                • Originally posted by wilson68
                  Two questions. How does the quoted part of your statement disparage the coaches mentioned?

                  Why do you believe these coaches teach elbow down?

                  I personally have no real stake in this, I have know idea why anyone teaches elbows anywhere, but I am curious why this upsets you.
                  I believe that coaches who teach the elbow down are following to teachings of Gary Ward and other instructors who have had tremendous success at the Div 1l level and beyond. His instruction has little if anything to do with bat drag.

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                  • Originally posted by jimmiemac
                    You have yet to show me anywhere , anyhow what I am saying is incorrect, but continue to resort to ill-funded attacks on me.
                    Perhaps if we pool our resources, we could do a better job of funding them. I've made investments in several less worthy causes.

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                    • Originally posted by fungo22
                      Perhaps if we pool our resources, we could do a better job of funding them. I've made investments in several less worthy causes.
                      Go ahead, but funding idiocy just leads to greater idiocy.

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                      • Originally posted by Wilson68
                        Why do you believe these coaches teach elbow down?
                        Originally posted by jimmiemac
                        I believe that coaches who teach the elbow down are following to teachings of Gary Ward and other instructors who have had tremendous success at the Div 1l level and beyond. His instruction has little if anything to do with bat drag.
                        I'm willing to learn something new. What is the purpose of keeping the elbow down according to Gary Ward and others?

                        I hope the answer isn't that they are following the teachings of Dave Hudgeons and other instructors who have had tremendous success at the MLB level. But in case it is, I pose the same question (for the third time) about Hudgeons.

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                        • When being taught certain hitting techniques as a youngster, I was always taught that keeping the back elbow up, leads to dropping the back shoulder. And of course the term "dropping back shoulder" used to be considered pure evil. Those were the days of being taught to swing "down" at the ball too.

                          For whatever reason, I've stayed with keeping the back elbow down. Not pressed against the lat down, but more like where the elbow is pointing down and back toward the catcher. It just feels more comfortable, more compact; like I have more control and less slack to deal with. There might be a slight loss of energy by not having it up, but for me, the comfort factor, which then equates to more success at the plate, is a more than fair trade off.
                          "By common consent, Ruth was the hardest hitter of history; a fine fielder, if not a finished one; an inspired base runner, seeming to do the right thing without thinking. He had the most perfect co-ordination of any human animal I ever knew." - Hugh Fullerton, 1936 (Chicago sports writer, 1893-1930's)

                          ROY / ERA+ Title / Cy Young / WS MVP / HR Title / Gold Glove / Comeback POY / BA Title / MVP / All Star / HOF

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                          • If it was a setpro site, you would be gone
                            I have no dog in this fight ....really.

                            But you now see what it is like to have an " Ofher- type" committed critic on the other side of the scales. It sort of weighs on you doesn't it. I knew one would surface one day.

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                            • If it was a setpro site, you would be gone
                              It will work out....

                              Steve saw the images from a recent camp. Good shots and I like the pin stripped pants on the black shirt better. Much better.
                              Last edited by swingbuster; 05-10-2006, 04:34 AM.

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                              • Originally posted by swingbuster
                                I have no dog in this fight ....really.

                                But you now see what it is like to have an " Ofher- type" committed critic on the other side of the scales. It sort of weighs on you doesn't it. I knew one would surface one day.
                                What other type is he and what side of the scale is he on besides against anyone who studied setpro and for common platitudes and banalities?

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