One Error or Two Errors?

[haganjp]

Just curious as to how to score this ... runners on 1st and 2nd, ground ball hit to second baseman. 2nd Baseman bobbles ball, picks it up, then tosses it over SS's head (who was covering 2nd base) into left field. Runner moving towards 2nd base would have been safe regardless of throw because of bobbled ball. Runner moving towards 3rd base scores because of throwing error and not bobbled ball. 2nd baseman made a "panicked" throw after bobbling the ball and realizing that the runner moving towards 2nd would be safe.

Question ... Is the 2nd baseman charged with 1 error or 2? ... the first error being the bobbled ball which allowed all runners to advance safely, the 2nd error being the overthrow into left field which allowed runner moving to 3rd to score.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Jim

[StanTheMan]

Two errors for me... mainly because the runner on third scored because of the throw, not the bobble. The botched grounder must be scored an error because he had an out at 2B or 1B if he fielded cleanly, or clean enough to not have to rush the throw and get an out.

[tg643]

If after bobbling the ball the second baseman could have thrown out the hitter at first it's only one error.

[scorekeeper]

Two errors for me... mainly because the runner on third scored because of the throw, not the bobble. The botched grounder must be scored an error because he had an out at 2B or 1B if he fielded cleanly, or clean enough to not have to rush the throw and get an out.

Agree.

People sometimes forget that there’s often more than one part to any play. From the description, the 1st error came when the f4 made a misplay that allowed a runner to reach without getting an out, i.e. bobbling the ball. The 2nd error came because a runner advanced because of a wild throw.