Sons and Daughters, Baseball and Ballet

[leecemark]

--Little League has not been an all boys league for 40 years or more. As a matter of principle I would be fine with a boy playing in a girls softball league for ages below puberty, after which a boys size and strength are generally going to be an unfair advantage. As a practical matter a boy joining an all girls league would probably find the teasing from other boys to be a negative outweighing the positives he might get from being on the team.

[songtitle]

I saw a boy play SS on a girls fast pitch team (maybe 12U). The parents were morons threatening to sue everyone if he was teased, etc.

[tg643]

I don't have an issue with girls playing baseball. There are two reasons why I wouldn't do it. 1) The best part of playing youth sports is hanging with your friends. While the girls I saw play baseball were accepted by the boys, they weren't really friends. 2) In middle school the boys start catching up to the girls physically. By high school the boys have passed the girls. If a girl aspires to play high school softball, the best way is to play softball. Baseball and softball are not the same game.

My daughter was a girly girl at an early age. We had her in gymnastics for an activity. Her athleticism was obvious. At age seven she asked to play soccer, basketball and softball since her friends would be playing. The first time she threw, caught or hit a softball was the night before her first practice. That night she suggested maybe going out in the yard might prevent her looking stupid at the first practice.

When my daughter was in high school the baseball and softball team played each other for charity. The girls pitched and played defense on the softball field. The boys pitched and played defense on the baseball field. The girls won. 65 mph underhand from forty feet and a riseball was more than the boys could handle.

My daughter's reaction to hitting baseball pitching, "You have all day to decide whether or not to swing" compared to softball. She was accustomed to a lot of 60-65 mph in travel. From forty feet it's similar to 100 mph from 60 feet. The baseball pitchers were at 80-85

[Jake Patterson]

The problem with society is that girls grow up to think they can act and perform like men. They grow up confused and disoriented and the divorce rate keeps increasing because there is no defined gender roles in the marriage.

How many women play in the NFL, NBA, MLB? Oh that's right, none because they can't compete at that level!

So why set up a young girl for failure?

Some of the best soldiers I ever had the privaledge of serving with were females... I don't think they would agree with you.

[The Flush]

There have been girls on my son's all-star teams the last 2 years. Last year our best catcher was a girl and she could knock the snot out of the ball. After seeing here play ball in the summer, it was weird to see her as a cheerleader in the fall. She has moved on the softball this year, while the other one is playing soccer (and she is great at it) instead of baseball.

[leecemark]

--Your wife is free to make her own choices, but your previous comments have been about limiting the choices of women. You also made several offensive comments about women serving our country. Clay should have made his complaint about you via the "report post" function, but he was not wrong about the nature of your posts. They were unacceptable for this site. You may disagree all you wish, but please keep your posts civil and respectfull.

[roga danar]

--Your wife is free to make her own choices,....

Excellent response lee

Choice. Trado's problem is choice.

[clayadams]

WOW, OMG... Trado's comments are allowed to stay but mine aren't. Nice to know where the board owners stand on the issue of sexism! The least you could have done is leave my completely separate post to the OP alive.

To the OP, enjoy the time spent with your daughter. That's what this is about. Whether she plays softball or baseball, you've found a common link for your relationship to grow.

[shake-n-bake]

I'd find it surprising that your daughter's commitment to dance allows for much time to take on baseball seriously enough to play on par with boys for very long. My daughter's 11. She's a beast, and I mean that affectionately. Very good softball and basketball and volleyball player. She got involved with competitive cheer about a year and a half ago. They take that stuff real serious. Right now is her official brief off season and she goes to conditioning classes 2 days a week that are for all intent and purpose mandatory. I've always been of the impression dance and gymnastics were similar in nature also.

[tg643]

WOW, OMG... Trado's comments are allowed to stay but mine aren't. Nice to know where the board owners stand on the issue of sexism! The least you could have done is leave my completely separate post to the OP alive.

To the OP, enjoy the time spent with your daughter. That's what this is about. Whether she plays softball or baseball, you've found a common link for your relationship to grow.

Any post linked to Trade's offensive post that was deleted went down with it. I lost one too. It's the way links work. If the source is deleted everything connected goes too.

[tg643]

Private message from Trade to me: You've been brainwashed by the feminist movement. How many boys can get pregnant at 14?

My response: I am a man. I don't need to subjugate women to feel good about myself. I coexist quite well in partnership. We still manage to maintain our personal masculinity and femininity. My daughter did not get pregnant at fourteen or any other age up to twenty-three. Rather than think for her, I raised to to think for herself and be responsible and accountable for her decisions and actions. She is very capable of taking care of herself. She graduated from college PBK while playing a college sport. She now interns for one of the most prestigious law firms in the world before heading off to a prestigious law school. I trust her judgement in men. Her boyfriend, who I expect her to marry after law school is a great guy.

[clayadams]

Any post linked to Trade's offensive post that was deleted went down with it. I lost one too. It's the way links work. If the source is deleted everything connected goes too.

I beg to differ. His post is still there.

[Megunticook]

I find it personally offensive when girls are allowed to play in boy's league.

Wow. Aren't we in the 21st Century now?

Next thing I'm going to read on this board is that it's offensive that women are allowed to vote, or own property, or choose their husband. I guess they should stay barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.

[BamaYankee]

I'd find it surprising that your daughter's commitment to dance allows for much time to take on baseball seriously enough to play on par with boys for very long. My daughter's 11. She's a beast, and I mean that affectionately. Very good softball and basketball and volleyball player. She got involved with competitive cheer about a year and a half ago. They take that stuff real serious. Right now is her official brief off season and she goes to conditioning classes 2 days a week that are for all intent and purpose mandatory. I've always been of the impression dance and gymnastics were similar in nature also.

Yeah, she's 8 turning 9, and not a member of the company yet. It is twice a week for her at 1.5 hrs at a time. At 11, she will be able to join the company, and then they start to really work. People would be surprised how many hours a day the jr high and high school practice their craft.

[Jake Patterson]

The problem with society is that girls grow up to think they can act and perform like men.

First. this "the" problem??? WTH? Second, Why not let them grow up thinking they should act like just.... people??
Why the distinction? Last, the divorce rate is going down - you should do your research.

They grow up confused and disoriented and the divorce rate keeps increasing because there is no defined gender roles in the marriage.

I had 4 sisters none grew up confused or disorientated... They played sports, got their MBA's and three of them own/ed their own businesses and make - well ... lots.

How many women play in the NFL, NBA, MLB? Oh that's right, none because they can't compete at that level!
So why set up a young girl for failure?

How many 5'4" men make it in the NFL? NBA? So once they are identified as being among the smallest we shouldn't let them play either??? Why set them up for failure??? And why is this falure - let them play until they run out of talent...