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  • Stats for a 10U are totally worthless.

    You don't know what you got until about 16.

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    • Originally posted by TouchemAll View Post
      Just a kid who absolutely loves the game of baseball and works very hard at it. ...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWixPKRWGiE
      Fun to watch... Well done.

      Just keep it in perspective and expose him to as many opportunities outside of baseball as possible.
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      • Originally posted by Baseball gLove View Post
        Looks like desperation when one of the YouTube clips are about working a walk. I was expecting 5 or 6 foul offs and a +10 pitch walk. Also noticed that his dad talks too much. I keep my mouth closed when my kids are at bat.
        hey learning to take a walk correctly is very important:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMxMnSd9rhY
        I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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        • Having attended (through my sports photography business as well as coaching) several major events every year and having been on the field with thousands of the best players, I can say I have only seen three players at age 12 that I thought were practically shoe-ins. Bryce Harper and Delino DeShields, Jr. seemed obvious. The other was J.P. Ramirez, who is languishing in AA for the nationals the last I heard. I have, however, seen or coached several future big leaguers, but none who struck me as gimmes, including Travis Wood and Cliff Lee. Currently, I put Emilio Vazquez in that catagory. Last season, he was MVP of the USSSA Elite 32 and I personally clocked him at 82mph. Also has wicked breaking stuff.

          Yesterday also brought the end of an era at my house. My 12yo (April birthday) is now officially taller than me. He has grown an inch and a half since October 2 and has breeched the 6' mark. I can still take him, though, if need be.

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          • Originally posted by Roothog66 View Post
            Having attended (through my sports photography business as well as coaching) several major events every year and having been on the field with thousands of the best players, I can say I have only seen three players at age 12 that I thought were practically shoe-ins. Bryce Harper and Delino DeShields, Jr. seemed obvious. The other was J.P. Ramirez, who is languishing in AA for the nationals the last I heard. I have, however, seen or coached several future big leaguers, but none who struck me as gimmes, including Travis Wood and Cliff Lee. Currently, I put Emilio Vazquez in that catagory. Last season, he was MVP of the USSSA Elite 32 and I personally clocked him at 82mph. Also has wicked breaking stuff.

            Yesterday also brought the end of an era at my house. My 12yo (April birthday) is now officially taller than me. He has grown an inch and a half since October 2 and has breeched the 6' mark. I can still take him, though, if need be.
            A slow changing of the guard was a time my son pinned me down. I told him we're at a point where I'll have to hurt him to get him off me. He started laughing and rolled off. He then asked what I had in mind. I told him his ribs would have hurt for a couple of days.

            I remember a similar incident with my father. The difference was my father threw me down face first faster than I could blink. Then he asked what I was thinking messing with a WWII Marine trained in hand to hand combat. The only hand to hand he experienced in WWIi was wrestling with the most beautiful women in the world while stationed at a radar tracking station in Iceland.
            Last edited by tg643; 12-10-2012, 04:51 PM.

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            • Nice, go Pops!

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              • I prefer Ryan Braun's (a phenom from my league and town) 14 pitch homerun to a walk. My younger boy does not have wheels and a walk is not a great result; not horrible, but not great either. My older boy, on the other hand, is a terror on the bases even now, with both pitchers and catchers thowing 80's to mid 90's. He has a very high probability of taking 2nd on a walk. He has stolen home about 2 times a season. More when he was younger. That does not include passed balls (we know the difference).

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                • Originally posted by tg643 View Post
                  If this is your kid you are a delusional parent. If the stats mean anything (they don't) I've seen plenty of top players in that age group put up better numbers. Yet when it was time they weren't good enough to play high school ball.
                  What were his numbers in the Elite 32? What teams did he face and how did he fair? That would speak a little more to his skills at this age than the stats.

                  It's good to be proud of the kid though, I've never added up my kid's games played ever, so I don't know if that is a lot or not, and we play year-round TB in So Cal as well as Little League. I think letting the kids know early on how incredibly hard it is to make it to HS, College or beyond is so important and I applaud you for that. Keep it real, keep them motivated, and most of all keep them enjoying the game.

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                  • Originally posted by Roothog66 View Post
                    Having attended (through my sports photography business as well as coaching) several major events every year and having been on the field with thousands of the best players, I can say I have only seen three players at age 12 that I thought were practically shoe-ins. Bryce Harper and Delino DeShields, Jr. seemed obvious. The other was J.P. Ramirez, who is languishing in AA for the nationals the last I heard. I have, however, seen or coached several future big leaguers, but none who struck me as gimmes, including Travis Wood and Cliff Lee. Currently, I put Emilio Vazquez in that catagory. Last season, he was MVP of the USSSA Elite 32 and I personally clocked him at 82mph. Also has wicked breaking stuff.

                    Yesterday also brought the end of an era at my house. My 12yo (April birthday) is now officially taller than me. He has grown an inch and a half since October 2 and has breeched the 6' mark. I can still take him, though, if need be.
                    Involved with the game for 50 years... I only saw one who was a shoe-in.
                    "He who dares to teach, must never cease to learn."
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                    • Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
                      Involved with the game for 50 years... I only saw one who was a shoe-in.
                      Over the past 20 year the business I was in and the venues I worked pretty much assured that I would see every prospect 18 and under (including rec ball leagues). I guess "shoe-in" might be a little off since I probably would have said Ramirez was the best of the lot. As a note, I didn't have Robert Stock in that category. Having also done a bit of football, that is an easier sport to guage from a younger age. Darren McFadden, Peyton Hillis, and Noshawn Morino come immediately to mind as guys I saw at 13-15yo and had no doubts about.

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                      • I'm curious about those that you never would have guessed it from.

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                        • Originally posted by clayadams View Post
                          I'm curious about those that you never would have guessed it from.
                          Cliff Lee comes to mind. Very good at 12 in LL, but really blossomed in high school. Many others I only realized years later that I had seen or photographed and realized I had almost no recollection of them. Clay Bucholz is another that really blossomed in high school, but didn't ring any bells for me.

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                          • Originally posted by Powerball Tournaments View Post
                            What were his numbers in the Elite 32? What teams did he face and how did he fair? That would speak a little more to his skills at this age than the stats.

                            It's good to be proud of the kid though, I've never added up my kid's games played ever, so I don't know if that is a lot or not, and we play year-round TB in So Cal as well as Little League. I think letting the kids know early on how incredibly hard it is to make it to HS, College or beyond is so important and I applaud you for that. Keep it real, keep them motivated, and most of all keep them enjoying the game.
                            We never looked past ... What do I have to do to excell this year? and How do I prepare for next year? If my son mentioned college ball I reminded him it might be a good idea to make high school varsity first. I had to tame him since his five years older sister was accomplishing what he wanted in the future. She played softball in the Big East before he made varsity.

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                            • Originally posted by clayadams View Post
                              I'm curious about those that you never would have guessed it from.
                              Bryan Lahair was the only player I ever saw that I knew would make it (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/play...hp?p=lahaibr01). There were a bunch that played college and Minors/Indy leagues that surprised me, but I never saw a player that made the MLB.
                              "He who dares to teach, must never cease to learn."
                              - John Cotton Dana (1856–1929) - Offered to many by L. Olson - Iowa (Teacher)
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                              • In New England, at least at that time, there were not that many. Bob Tewksbury went to my HS..my mother taught his younger brother in fourth grade. He subbed teaching sometimes and came back occasionally to our practices..you could hold out your glove and close your eyes and he would hit it.

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