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  • HeinekenMan
    started a topic Youth Phenoms

    Youth Phenoms

    This is just a place where you can tell stories about incredible youth ballplayers.

    I'll start us off with a story about myself. My name is Al Bundy.

    Just kidding.

    Let's see. I heard about this 12-year-old kid from our Little League who can throw 80. I'm not sure I believe it. Apparently, he had a growth plate problem and had a screw put in last fall. I don't think he's been pitching much since then. But he's impressive with the bat, too. At an all star game on Sunday, he hit a ball over the fence in center. It's almost silly to say that he hit it over the fence. The ball was 100 feet high by the time it reached the fence. Behind the fence was a sidewalk and street and then some really tall utility poles and large Live Oak trees. The trees were probably 250 feet from home plate, and the ball went over the wires at the top of the utility pole and through the trees. That part of the tree was probably 50 feet off the ground. His dad went to retrieve the ball and couldn't find it for awhile. This kid is 5-foot-8. His dad said he started to grow a lot last year. He's actually league age 12. So he might be closer to 13 in actual age. I've never seen a kid hit a ball like that one.

  • Roothog66
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    Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
    If we assume that 1:15,000 12 year olds make it to the Majors then that would mean at 300 MLB'ers you would need to have seen 4.5M players (14,999 X 300).

    1:15,000 was used years ago by the NCAA on HS baseball players making the pros.
    First, statistics that are this general can be misleading. Having just checked the NCAA website, they estimate one of every 200 high school baseball players will eventually be drafted. Now, if 2% eventually play in a major league game, that's 1:10,000. Looking at all youth ball, most likely much less, so even if I question the stat for HS players, you probably aren't that far off for youth. However, I did this for some 20 years full-time. 12 months a year. When you consider that every weekend I'm shooting 30 teams and four every weekday February through October, that's a lot of teams. In July and August, I'm shooting 14-20 per day, six days a week. And almost all of this was done in Florida and Texas among upper level travel teams, American Legion State, regionals, and, four times, Legion World Series. I think it's safe to say that I'm shooting among select groups/regions that would significantly increase the rate of players who eventually make MLB. Also remember that, just for business sake, I'm not reshooting many teams, so I'm shooting at least 2,000 teams a year or about 24,000 players a year. If we say that the groups/regions I shoot get the number down to one in 5,000 I may shoot 5 a year. Of course, over the years, I reshoot kids as they get older. Like I said, I can only count 15-20 I know for sure, but I imagine many more have slipped by me unknown. Of course, many of these numbers are speculative and in many years I shot football on saturdays instead of baseball. It was a fun business, though.

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  • JJA
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    Originally posted by clayadams View Post
    I'm curious about those that you never would have guessed it from.
    Milton Bradley. He was nothing special at 13. Good player, some good tools, but a lot of guys were better than he was.

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  • Jake Patterson
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    Originally posted by raptor View Post
    Is Denehy a baseball guy?
    I have one quick story about Brian Denehy....

    In 2006 the son of an old Army buddy of mine, a young man I watched grow up, was killed in Mehtar Lam, Afghanistan, by an IED (SSGT Joseph Phaneuf). The line for the wake was literally a mile long. I got into line and quickly saw that standing next to me was Brian Denehy. We got to talk and I asked him how he knew Joey... He said "I don't. I just figured coming was the right thing to do." Regardless of any of his downside... The guy earned my everlasting respect that day.

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  • Jake Patterson
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    Originally posted by Roothog66 View Post
    The truth is, I've probably seen dozens, if not hundreds, of players from 8yo to 18yo who eventually made the majors and I don't even know it.
    If we assume that 1:15,000 12 year olds make it to the Majors then that would mean at 300 MLB'ers you would need to have seen 4.5M players (14,999 X 300).

    1:15,000 was used years ago by the NCAA on HS baseball players making the pros.

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  • Jake Patterson
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    Originally posted by raptor View Post
    Is Denehy a baseball guy? That movie is awful compared to the book..it is a very fun read...like "Stolen Season" from Lamb, with more intensity.

    I don't think so... I believe he played football at Columbia.

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  • raptor
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    Is Denehy a baseball guy? That movie is awful compared to the book..it is a very fun read...like "Stolen Season" from Lamb, with more intensity. The author intimated that JS is one of the better connected coaches around..look at the schools and conferences which his players attend year over year.
    Last edited by raptor; 12-11-2012, 07:45 PM.

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  • Jake Patterson
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    Originally posted by raptor View Post
    Yes Jake, it is more about not seeing many here at that time whom you would just "know " they'd make it to the top. There's definitely high-quality ball all over New England. If you haven't read "The Last Best League", it's a great read about a season with Schiffner and the A's, profiling Tim Stauffer, Jamie D'Antona, and a few other players.
    Raptor, I coached against John Schiffner in HS and had him as a clinician at our coaches' clinics. Schiff was also a key character in the movie Summer Catch. He was played by Brian Denehy who lives in the next town over. Schiff is known as one of the best coaches in NE. He left HS ball last year, but I believe he is still coachig the A's.

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  • raptor
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    Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
    In New England we have six (?) professional baseball teams (Portland, Providence, Boston, New Britain, Norwich, Worcester, New Haven) plus New York X2, plus the Cape Cod League, so we get to see a number of good ball players.

    So the question needs refining... Is it how many you have seen as developing youngsters?
    Yes Jake, it is more about not seeing many here at that time whom you would just "know " they'd make it to the top. There's definitely high-quality ball all over New England. If you haven't read "The Last Best League", it's a great read about a season with Schiffner and the A's, profiling Tim Stauffer, Jamie D'Antona, and a few other players.

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  • Roothog66
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    The truth is, I've probably seen dozens, if not hundreds, of players from 8yo to 18yo who eventually made the majors and I don't even know it. If they didn't order something from me that necessitated using their name, I usually wouldn't know unless they really stood out. A couple of years ago, though, I went over records from 1995 to present and found 15 mlb'ers that I recognized. I'm sure there were probably twice that many in my orders who have played ml baseball, but I don't yet recognize. Of those, I believe 7 played rec league baseball (mostly from the Houston area except for Cliff Lee and Travis Wood). They may also have played travel later on, though.

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  • Jake Patterson
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    Originally posted by raptor View Post
    In New England, at least at that time, there were not that many. Bob Tewksbury went to my HS..my mother taught his younger brother in fourth grade. He subbed teaching sometimes and came back occasionally to our practices..you could hold out your glove and close your eyes and he would hit it.
    In New England we have six (?) professional baseball teams (Portland, Providence, Boston, New Britain, Norwich, Worcester, New Haven) plus New York X2, plus the Cape Cod League, so we get to see a number of good ball players.

    So the question needs refining... Is it how many you have seen as developing youngsters?

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  • Baseball gLove
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    Originally posted by Jake Patterson View Post
    Bryan Lahair was the only player I ever saw that I knew would make it (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/play...hp?p=lahaibr01). There were a bunch that played college and Minors/Indy leagues that surprised me, but I never saw a player that made the MLB.
    I know more than a few.

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  • raptor
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    In New England, at least at that time, there were not that many. Bob Tewksbury went to my HS..my mother taught his younger brother in fourth grade. He subbed teaching sometimes and came back occasionally to our practices..you could hold out your glove and close your eyes and he would hit it.

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  • Jake Patterson
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    Originally posted by clayadams View Post
    I'm curious about those that you never would have guessed it from.
    Bryan Lahair was the only player I ever saw that I knew would make it (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/play...hp?p=lahaibr01). There were a bunch that played college and Minors/Indy leagues that surprised me, but I never saw a player that made the MLB.

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  • tg643
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    Originally posted by Powerball Tournaments View Post
    What were his numbers in the Elite 32? What teams did he face and how did he fair? That would speak a little more to his skills at this age than the stats.

    It's good to be proud of the kid though, I've never added up my kid's games played ever, so I don't know if that is a lot or not, and we play year-round TB in So Cal as well as Little League. I think letting the kids know early on how incredibly hard it is to make it to HS, College or beyond is so important and I applaud you for that. Keep it real, keep them motivated, and most of all keep them enjoying the game.
    We never looked past ... What do I have to do to excell this year? and How do I prepare for next year? If my son mentioned college ball I reminded him it might be a good idea to make high school varsity first. I had to tame him since his five years older sister was accomplishing what he wanted in the future. She played softball in the Big East before he made varsity.

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