Scorekeeping Question

[The Flush]

We had a batter called out for stepping out of the batters box when hitting the ball in our last tournament. Does this count as an official at-bat for calculating batting average and on-base percentage? I would assume it does, but wanted to doublecheck.

Also, does a fielder's choice count as getting on base for calculating on-base percentage?

[ipitch]

We had a batter called out for stepping out of the batters box when hitting the ball in our last tournament. Does this count as an official at-bat for calculating batting average and on-base percentage? I would assume it does, but wanted to doublecheck.

Yes, it counts.

Also, does a fielder's choice count as getting on base for calculating on-base percentage?

It counts against a player's OBP. Reaching on an error will also lower your OBP.

[The Flush]

It counts against a player's OBP. Reaching on an error will also lower your OBP.

It makes sense that FC and ROE count against OBP, but since the batter ended up on base I wanted to double check that as well.

This is for a 10U rec league all-star team where errors produce a higher percentage of the runs scored than higher levels of baseball. I am thinking of keeping an unofficial stat that does not have ROE count against OBP in order to reflect that the batter is actually putting the ball in play instead of striking out. That seems to be important to this level of baseball. I am looking for something to be an additional factor in setting the batting order. Any thoughts on the best stats to use for this purpose?

[The Flush]

Do you include sacrifces in calculating OBP? I assume not and that those plate appearances are ignored (do not affect it positively or negatively), but that you do include the other plate appearances that are not used in calculating batting average such as BB and HBP.

[Roothog66]

Do you include sacrifces in calculating OBP? I assume not and that those plate appearances are ignored (do not affect it positively or negatively), but that you do include the other plate appearances that are not used in calculating batting average such as BB and HBP.

OBP = (hits + BB + HBP) / pa's

[Roothog66]

Make that:

OBP = (h + BB + HBP) / (AB + BB + HBP + SF)

[Roothog66]

Note that while SF's count against OBP, SAC's (sac bubts) do not.

[scorekeeper]

… This is for a 10U rec league all-star team where errors produce a higher percentage of the runs scored than higher levels of baseball. I am thinking of keeping an unofficial stat that does not have ROE count against OBP in order to reflect that the batter is actually putting the ball in play instead of striking out. That seems to be important to this level of baseball. I am looking for something to be an additional factor in setting the batting order. Any thoughts on the best stats to use for this purpose?

If you keep a stat, it becomes “official”.

What you’re talking about, is what a lot of team statisticians do. All it is, is tracking something that has a context for the venue you’re in. There have been loads of things printed about setting batting orders, but the truth is, there’s no “best” way to do it, thus there’s no metric that by itself will do it either.

Maybe this will give you some direction. http://www.infosports.com/scorekeepe.../reaveplus.pdf
While RBA is not OBP, it does give a fair representation of how batters compare about reaching base, no matter how it happens.

Go to http://www.infosports.com/scorekeepe.../batting12.pdf and do a find on “BABIP”. There are several metrics you can look at by repeating the find. You may also find BABIP1 and BABIP1A interesting from a batting order perspective.

The nice thing about the numbers is, you can always pick and choose to get what works best for you.

GOOD LUCK!